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The Farmers Protest

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  1. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    Or what’s actually affordable. See David Wilson homes at Lambton Park, starting at about £300k for a 2 bed terraced new build because it’s built on expensive land and the 5 beds are about £650k.
     
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    If they can afford s hit junk food they can afford nice food, some just have to get off their fat lazy arses.
     
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  3. FellTop

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    Labour have rebranded greenfield grey belt already, so the brownfield sites arent the only option. There is a load of land round here going through the rebranding, which seems not to be the type of land they suggested it would be, but it is happening nontheless. This will give more housing in the countryside.

    We cant give it away without real limits imo. There are plenty of houses for sale nobody is buying in the countryside. Apparently the roads and trains are knackered. And there are no schools, doctors, etc.

    I rented for years when I was young, in a horrible area. Horrible flat. Got a tiny house, in a crap area and went from there. Now I live in, and can afford, a nice place in a nice area. I have folk work for me, in their 20s, want to go to the 3 bed semi at first buy. I was at an event for work this week and someone was sharing research about the expectations of younger folk now. It is far higher than I had. Now I am not tarring all younger folk the same, or all who are trying to buy a house in the countryside. But you cant always have what you want, unfortunately. For a long time I aspired for things I now have, some I dont and probablt wont ever. I would love to live in a world where everyone could live their dreams, but that isnt realistic.
     
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    A lot like illegal imigrants pouring in here, you can’t always have what you want.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

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    Apparently so, there always seems to be stories of young locals having to move away to be able to afford to buy or rent.

    The amount of sizeable, usually unoccupied, 'second homes' up here in coastal Fife is ridiculous ...

    ... in reality they're not homes at all, just a way of investing money.

    That's fine but it means many locals, trying to buy, just can't afford them.
     
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  6. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

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    Illegal immigrants are boiling my blood lately, literally nothing is done to prevent it. Even the RNLI risk their lives to rescue them.
    At the risk of derailing this thread, I’ll leave it here.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

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    The English Channel used to be one of our greatest assets ...

    ... now it's one of our biggest problems.
     
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    Can’t really understand the argument . Why does someone with 3 million pounds off assets pay less tax than someone with £500000 pounds worth , who has had a house in the family for a long time , just like the farmers . What is the difference it could still be a family business .
     
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  9. The Norton Cat

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    From the Guardian:
    "Since 1992, agricultural property relief (APR) has meant family farms have been passed down tax-free in a policy intended to bolster food security and keep people on the land. This tax exemption was made because farming is often not a lucrative business, and the work is difficult, so people often do it simply because it is the family business. If farmers sell up, this affects food security. The UK now produces less than 60% of the food its inhabitants eat."
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

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    Exactly the same as 20 years ago and all of the 1950's and 1960's iirc.

    I was at grammar school in the 1960's and remember that being quite a boast.

    Over the last half century 60% would be about average I reckon.

    People's tastes have changed so we probably eat more mangos, olives and paté than we used to ...

    ... not to mention rice and other foodstuffs we rarely ate fifty years ago.

    Blame the middle classes <laugh>

    As a wild guess I'd think we still produce about 80% of our own indigenous food.
     
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  11. vic9

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    Made me chuckle this, but so true
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    That's absolutely disgusting mate ...

    ... first Donald Trump finds they're eating people's pets and now this <doh>
     
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    Exactly. Some powerful media owners are part of it.
    It's about time they were regulated properly.
     
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    or . . . .

    :emoticon-0159-musicOld Clarkson had a tax dodge
    hard ****ing luck:emoticon-0159-music
     
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    Nigel Farage, who loves dressing up more than Boris Johnson ...

    ... turns up dressed as a farmer at the protest.

    Claiming to be there 'to support small farmers' but it turns out he owns £3million worth of land like Clarkson ...

    ... yet people believe every word that comes out of his mouth <doh>

    https://www.instagram.com/nigel_farage/reel/DCkHcRMox6H/
     
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    It looks like this farmers protest is damaging Labour. That and the total incompetency of this government. Just four months after one of the biggest landslide wins in history, the bookies have now placed the Tories as favourites for the next election. Reform are only just behind them as they continue to surge in the polls due to Farage’s seemingly popularity.

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  18. The Norton Cat

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    It's no surprise that they're unpopular in my opinion. You have to assume that their intentions are good but it all seems ill thought out and their policies have potentially damaging side-effects. It appears that their taxation changes could affect some small heritage assets. These are often run by people who have inherited them and run them as a labour of love when they're really financial albatrosses round their necks. They tend to be the kind of things that are run as small visitor attractions and sometimes wedding venues but only really make enough money to ensure the survival of the asset itself, in a form as close to original as possible. No one is making big money off them. They are also the kind of thing that, if they are sold, end up in the hands of developers who turn them into hotels or luxury apartments, removing their historical significance and preventing the general public from seeing them. They become the preserve of the wealthy, which you'd think a left-wing government would want to avoid.
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    How do you know all this ...

    ... not saying you don't but that's quite some knowledge of such a specific subject.
     
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    Heritage professional.
     
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