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Confirmed: Russell Martin has been sacked

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Osvaldorama, Sep 19, 2023.

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Martin out?

  1. Right now, he's worse than Guardiola

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  2. Give him one more game

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  3. Give him until next international break

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  4. Stick with him, he'll turn it round

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  5. No point in sacking now, wait until end of the season

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  1. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    No football club or side is worth getting depressed over or angry about. What about going to see Lincoln City and just enjoy the football?
     
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  2. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    I go to Sholing occasionally to watch some stress free footy...:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  3. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I'm neither at depression nor anger. Just full of adrenaline ready for Friday like it's actually an important game.
     
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  4. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Please not this. It is crude, sexist and too personal and it's cruel. Stick to his football is ****. I can go with that. PS I haven't seen her tits and have no desire to do so.
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah I was joking hence the laugh. No need for any personal stuff.

    And Lucy's tits were probably the first I saw as I must have been about 12 when she was big. Remember nicking a nuts magazine from the local shop to have a gander.

    Also remember taking it to school and getting in trouble for passing around the class. Good times.
     
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  6. Brixham Saint

    Brixham Saint Well-Known Member

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    But have you seen Tall Paul’s sock? :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    That song is beyond grim tbh. Can't get behind singing about another man's penis and it's borderline racist too.
     
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  8. Brixham Saint

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    That’s what I was eluding to. Football songs are very rarely polite, love songs. They used to be a lot worse when I started going to games in the mid 80’s.
    Thankfully my singing days are over. I mainly like moaning about the poor Refs and VAR nowadays.
     
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  9. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    Or "J'adore Chris Martin!!
     
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  10. haslam

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    My two cents worth (as a Newcastle fan who saw a decent Southampton performance in your first game this season). When Burnley were playing "attractive football" but getting beat (and eventually relegated) I as a neutral could at least see what it is they were trying to achieve and with a bit of luck it could have worked. It didn't feel like they were just trying the same thing over and over and making the same mistakes in a manner, hence their manager came out with a lot of credit at the end of the season and got the job at Bayern Munich.

    With Martin you can sort of see what they're trying to do it just doesn't seem to work. Relegation is looking more inevitable each week and if that happens can you see any club looking at Martin and thinking "oh i liked what you tried to achieve there"? If he's genuinely as good as some think then he needs to find a way to adapt. Fast. It may not immediately improve results but anything would be good.
     
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  11. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    He won't adapt. He's repeatedly said so.

    He'd rather lose being 'brave' than win being sensible.
     
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  12. Saints_Alive

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    The problem is that the players are just not good enough footballers to play out from the back for ninety minutes. If the pass is not on then it shouldn't be played, there has to be some sort of selective thinking and not keep on making the same mistakes over again. It feels like the definition of madness right now and Martin will have to adapt or lose his job because the results wont get better if he doesn't.
     
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  13. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    A good job it wasn’t a cob! They have the capability of breaking a man’s arm and more!
     
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  14. LincolnSaint

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    Love that. Trust a non English speaker to articulate the problem better than most of us who were just calling him an arrogant prick <laugh>
     
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  15. San Tejón

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    If the fans seriously turn on RM, at a time when the season is effectively over and relegation has been “achieved” or almost done, it wouldn’t surprise me if Lallana was installed as a caretaker manager (assuming he has enough coaching badges) until the end of the season.
    If he were to do well he would then be in with a chance of remaining in charge.
    If he doesn’t do so well, then it gives the board more time to get someone more capable at the start of the summer, who then starts without the stigma of relegation being on his CV.
    Not suggesting it would be the right thing to do, but if the club are worried about costs of replacing RM and his entire back room staff, it would probably be a cheaper option.
     
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    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
     
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  17. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    If you can keep your head when everyone around you are losing theirs, then you haven’t grasped the severity of the situation.
    I think that might come from the Simpsons, but I might be wrong.
     
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  18. StJabbo1

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    Wasn't it during the French revolution?
     
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  19. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    He’s not a good manager.

    If he was a good manager we’d have been promoted automatically.

    He can’t set up a midfield. Can’t organise a defence. Ignores the basics like set pieces. Awful subs. Awful tactics. Terrible selections

    And even worse than that, his style of football is excruciating.
    He thinks he’s the next Kompany, but really he’s the next Nathan Jones. He’ll be back in league one before you know it
     
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  20. Brinkworth Saint

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    It’s a worthy plan B. However two things, we’re not down yet and more than enough games left to stay up, and the owners, not the fans will decide if and what happens next. Based on current evidence the first seems unlikely and the second is a bit more complicated in that by our reckoning, enough is enough but we have not a clue of their reckoning yet. My sense tells me this is a longer saga than is necessary and needs ending soon, but a few weeks more yet to come I fear.
     
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