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Match Day Thread Luton v Hull City

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Nov 12, 2024.

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  1. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member

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    Maybe because those players weren’t worth £80m when they came to us and he was the man responsible for improving them up to that value?
     
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  2. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    do you think that is the case?
     
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  3. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Probably by replacing them with 20-25m worth of talent, which is more than that group was worth this time last year.
     
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  4. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Philogene was worth 5m when he came to us as that's what we paid for him. Delap was worth maybe 10-15, carvalho 20m+. Many on here thought we should have taken 7m for greaves.
     
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  5. Heimdallr

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    Both Philogene and Carvahlo said it was the case.
     
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  6. Drew

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    How is it not the case?
     
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  7. petersaxton

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    Even if it is the case then it would have been better spent on our owned players - Philogene was always likely to leave given the terms agreed.
    The players we kept dont look as if they have improved
    If Rosenior was such a good manager I would have thought he would get the players to be more effective at throw-ins and corners.
    I would have hoped he would get the players to keep the ball down when shooting from outside the penalty area. Practically every shot outside the box goes well above the bar. I'm not saying that Tim has improved them though.
     
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  8. Drew

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    What has any of that got to do with Rosenior improving or not improving the worth of a squad?
     
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  10. BlackAndAmberGambler

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    In denial? I wish he was in de Rhine…at the bottom of it.
     
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  11. The B&S Fanclub

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    Hart, aber wahr
     
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  12. Jim the Tiger

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    The only intestering thing for me there is Cooper accidently putting 'inabooty' instead of 'inability'. Bit worrying that his predictive text changed it that way. Just how often is Bazza telling people he has been 'inabooty' and why?

    He is definitely a wrong un.
     
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  13. petersaxton

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    who do you think he improved?
    and how?
     
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  14. petersaxton

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    so he can 'improve a squad' but cant get then to take throw-ins, corners or shots outside the box?
     
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  15. Drew

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    As Brady post got bang on - I can't really be bothered with a back and forth about last season - but I'm clearly talking about the players you said were worth £80m.
     
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  16. HullCityAFC1904

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    It was clearly nonsense, I was on here pre-season about it and also I have links to Hamburg so knew about Walter too. Everything was wrong about it. The owner might be a lovely bloke and like to gift people Turkish holidays but his priority is Fenerbahce, we are some kind of vanity project or extension of what he does over there as shown by the Rosy dismissal, the Walter hiring, and the pre season shambles .
     
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  17. HCAFCHangout

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    This is it for me. I’m sick of the whole entertainment excuse. Fair enough you’ve tried it but now we are going to have to get a manager in that’s going to have to get results regardless of how good the tactics are similar to when Rosenior first came in.

    He’s sticking by Tim despite him literally having the same sort of statistics Rosenior had and at least the latter was producing points.
     
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  18. tigerrev

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    Name me one City manager that has ever improved us on throw-ins? We've always been Sh!te.

    Possibly the only time we weren't (and one of the few times we regularly threw the ball forward) was when we had a Whitehurst or Mutrie who could take the ball and shield it
     
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  19. HCAFCHangout

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    Delap - unknown quantity that was largely derided at PNE and Stoke who looked good here.

    Philogene - showed flashes at Cardiff but hadn’t set the world alight yet. Brought into his own here.

    Greaves - A player that was largely good not great under McCann suddenly flourished in a system that highlighted his skills playing out the back and ability to defend in space

    Morton - Blackburn fans didn’t rate him on loan and suddenly looks a decent midfield general

    Tufan - fat lazy midfielder under Shota turned into potent threat up front when needed

    We can do the argument to death about Rosenior failing to gain playoffs with a super squad. In reality the bloke literally coached the players to the best of their capability and managed to therefore get decent fees for at least 2 of them (we could’ve got more)

    He didn’t fail. We likely wouldn’t be in this position either as he’d be getting a tune out of this bunch
     
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  20. TIGERSCAVE

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    I'm of the opinion that the delay in TW deciding to join us was to do with the contract and nothing else. I suspect he saw what had gone before and played hard ball regarding severance, autonomy etc and the depth of financial constraints essentially stops Acun from doing what pretty much every supporter and perhaps player would like to happen.
     
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