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Match Day Thread Preston North End FC v Sunderland AFC - Wednesday 6th November 2024 - KO 20:00

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Nov 4, 2024.

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Your Prediction:

Poll closed Nov 6, 2024.
  1. Home win

    7.8%
  2. Away win (safc)

    76.6%
  3. Draw

    15.6%
  1. williebeams

    williebeams Well-Known Member

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    i agree, as you say jobes gait, strength and general athleticism and his game which is built on being a supremely economical midfielder, very efficient, not wasteful, careful yet creative in possession, the confidence and ability to twist out, not panic and ultimately box crash.

    Supreme
     
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  2. Frazier the Lion

    Frazier the Lion Well-Known Member

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    GAme state is definitely part of it IMO. We've been good at getting ahead. Once we are, we are relatively satisfied in letting opposition have the ball as we are generally comfortable in being able to withstand pressure. I'd certainly like to see us dominate more, but our relatively low xG is at least partly due to us doing what we need to win.

    Glad that RLB changed things last night, mind - even if it didn't work. He needs to expand his group of trusted players. He will need them, and I believe that there's talent there if he can use them.
     
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  3. Frazier the Lion

    Frazier the Lion Well-Known Member

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    Jobe is our best and most important player. We don't have anyone in the squad who can do what he does and IMO that showed last night. I'm glad that he's going under the radar to a fair extent.
     
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  4. young2077

    young2077 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he is going under the radar. They said on sky dortmund had a scout last night. Now he could have booked to see Rigg and Jobe. Not first time we have had scouts from some of Europe's top teams at our matches. He will 100% be in the radar for a few.

    I think they probably thought they could turn his head and disrupt him and would get him cheap. They probably realise now they will need to pay for him!

    He has been outstanding this season! The level of improvement is astronomical. He was a now and again man last season! I wouldn't have been that bothered to see him sold for a half decent fee as didn't think he was irreplaceable. He has been unreal this year.
     
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  5. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Have you not heard Crystal Palace are putting a £20mil bid in for him in January, so that’s Chrissy away to one of the giants of the Premiership
     
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  6. LBW

    LBW Well-Known Member

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    Because of his size he doesnt look quick but he covers the ground well, when he gets going he looks frightening, must be intimidating looking at that lad running at you with the ball.
     
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  7. ned_werby

    ned_werby Well-Known Member

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    We lost at Watford because Dan fvcking Neil had a brain fart, no other reason
     
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  8. ned_werby

    ned_werby Well-Known Member

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    Only data that matters, #1 in the table, #1 for games won, #1 points won, #1 goals scored.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    And don't forget the goal difference <laugh>

    TBH I'm starting to tire of XGs and other stats ...

    ... it's all just a guide that's all and not a very good guide at times.
     
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  10. MadMackem77

    MadMackem77 Well-Known Member

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    Good players out perform their xG that’s kind of how it works

    if you’re top of the league chances are you’re clinical and dangerous
     
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  11. MadMackem77

    MadMackem77 Well-Known Member

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    For context

    23/24

    Leicester xG 85.8 - GS 89
    Ipswich xG 75.1 - GS 92
    Southampton xG 81.0 - GS 87
    Leeds xG 80.9 - GS 81

    22/23

    Burnley xG 67.0 - GS 87
    Sheffield United xG 73.0 - GS 73
    Luton xG 58.9 - GS 57
    Coventry xG 63.7 - GS 58

    most teams scored more than they were expected too. Burnley and Ipswich getting automatically promoted with a significant difference

    this shows to go up you’re either creating a lot and scoring to match. Or scoring with limited big chances you create
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    So that means the stats were wrong?
     
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  13. young2077

    young2077 Well-Known Member

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    Who decides the xg anyway? How don't they decide a certain chance scored whatever in the xg?

    Sometimes players score a goal that will be low on the xg has they do something special and other times players will miss one high xg cause they miss a sitter?

    Stats aren't my thing but then again neither are those tactics breakdowns people do. I watch and I either like what I see or don't! I'm not a coach I don't need to get too deep into stats and tactics etc...
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Over analysing things make them too much like computer games for my liking ...

    ... apply XG to some players, from the past, and they'd be totally wrong.

    We all know players who've seemingly not been in the game then bang a couple in.
     
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  15. young2077

    young2077 Well-Known Member

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    Or players that have scored a goal that wasn't even a chance but they pull something special out of the bag!
     
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  16. MadMackem77

    MadMackem77 Well-Known Member

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    It means they scored harder chances or showed better clinical finishing. Like a good team would
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    But the stats were wrong?
     
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  18. Dunder Mifflin

    Dunder Mifflin Well-Known Member

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    Oh so the world hasn’t ended after all
     
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  19. TeamOfTalents

    TeamOfTalents Well-Known Member

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    Depends which player has the shot <laugh>
     
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  20. Monkey69

    Monkey69 Well-Known Member

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    Couldn’t agree more, well said <applause><applause><applause>
     
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