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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    My last word on this

    May I add that it isn't being 'woke' calling it out, it is being a decent human being with decent values.
     
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  2. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    I can only apologise for not openly calling this out, but I have him on ignore as responding seemed a pointless waste of my time and I was unable to read this thread when it was there because it turned it into a pointless game of verbal tennis with someone who just needs the oxygen of our attention

    I support you in your campaign but beware it’s affect on you mentally and look after yourself
     
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  3. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Yeah no worries, I had him on ignore too, but the thread became so unreadable that I undid it.

    Appreciate it can make me mad, but to be honest after years of living with the general undertone from people I am immune to it. Just felt it was right to call it out as it is and not skirt around it.

    He can deny it all he likes, but it may be a case of deny too much as you know really that is who you are.

    In fact I would have more respect for someone to come out and say, yep that is how I feel, rather than pretend.

    A favourite expression of mine is that you cannot reason with stupid.
     
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    It is the absolute lack of self-awareness that gets me. Perfectly reasonable conversations are there to be had about immigration, religious intolerance, terrorism, but everything is reduced to a soundbite, an insult and an assertion without proof. He never responds in depth and never supports his case. Yet we are all stupid. And anyone who finds themselves having to repeatedly tell us they aren't a racist? Well... we know what that means.
     
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  5. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    I prefer unreadable and understand that you may have better armour than me

    I’m the old days I could call people out and then just avoid them. Not so easy on here, but it’s what I’ve done
     
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    You are a massive part of the problem.

    Your extreme sensitivity in this issue is allowing Muslim extremists to murder children in our country. (I include YOU in OUR).

    By stifling the conversation and shouting the word racist at everyone, you are making the issue much worse.
     
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    Literally takes less than 5 seconds to find multiple press articles painting a Muslim terrorist as an innocent sweet child.

    If you don’t see a problem with this, I would suggest you are the stupid one, not me.
     
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  8. Osvaldorama

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    If I call you a cock enough times, does that mean you are one?
    What a stupid post
     
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    It's better to be over-sensitive than not sensitive at all in what is a sensitive issue.

    The sentence I've highlighted is just utter crap. Since when did being sensitive about a topic allow extremists (note I removed the word "Muslim") to murder people in this country? Actually I'm not sure why I've highlighted one sentence, the whole post is just sick.
     
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  10. Osvaldorama

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    Because it allows the conversation to be unheard.

    People aren’t discussing the real issues that are at hand. Because when they do, this exact thing happens.

    I will leave it for now and I apologise if I have offended thereisonlyoneno7 (who is completely making things up that I haven’t said). At no point have I equated Muslim extremists to anyone’s race. Thats not something I believe to be true and would never, ever say.

    My idea of Britain is an inclusive one where everyone works hard but is also tough on crime.

    Not one where government and police cover up the background of child murderers.
     
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    This is exactly your issue. You just care about fitting headlines to your agenda. This article explores what his neighbours said about him. It isn't making anything up. Clearly, if you can read, it paints a picture of an autistic introvert - exactly the kind of person vulnerable to being groomed by extremists. The fact is he was not born a killer, and I don't understand why you want to bury your head in the sand and say a sweet innocent child cannot become an extremist.

    It feels like you just want to shout and rave about things rather than engage with the issues.
     
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  12. tomw24

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    The fact you said "Muslim extremists" says it all for me. Because the people who carry out these attacks and claim to be Muslim are NOT true Muslims. They are simply extremists and scumbags. By saying "Muslim extremists" it suggests you are prejudiced against anyone who practices Islam.
     
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    Locals on the ground in Southport have been saying this is all a lie from the start.

    It’s literally what started the initial riots.

    Why do you want to ignore reality?
     
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  14. Osvaldorama

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    So basically you want to ignore all the data and say that religion had absolutely nothing to do with it?

    The Al-quaeda handbook in his bedroom was just a total coincidence?

    Obviously not all Muslims are extremists. But no one is trying to claim that
     
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    If enough people keep calling me a cock, I would think about changing my behaviour. That is called being self-aware. Thanks for proving my point. Again.
     
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  16. Osvaldorama

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    Truth is truth. I don’t care if you don’t like it. You were wrong on this issue. Just like you are wrong on most issues. Just because a few of you like to gang up on anyone with a different opinion, doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to have one.
     
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    LOCALS ON THE GROUND IN SOUTHPORT? What is wrong with you? The kid wasn't from Southport. How would anyone in Southport know? You are so deluded it hurts my brain.
     
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    This is like arguing with a toddler.
     
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  19. tomw24

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    I would suggest leaving it now.
     
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    To change the subject, the Budget is about to be revealed by Reeves.
     
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