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Confirmed: Russell Martin has been sacked

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Osvaldorama, Sep 19, 2023.

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Martin out?

  1. Right now, he's worse than Guardiola

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  2. Give him one more game

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  3. Give him until next international break

    0.9%
  4. Stick with him, he'll turn it round

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  5. No point in sacking now, wait until end of the season

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  1. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a fan of it, no. Would far rather the high press, quick forward Red Arrows style of Poch any day of the week. And having a big man up front (which even City do now).
     
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  2. Toss saints

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    It is just about bearable when you win,but when you ate losing it is just intolerable. What get us excited, a winger beating his man a cross from the touchline and a thumping header making the net bellow. We just do not see this any more
     
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  3. manxsaint

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    Yes bring back Paine, Sydenham and Reeves.
     
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  4. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    I have no desire to witness the return of old fashioned English kick and rush football personally. It’s held the national team back for decades, and you certainly don’t win anything by giving the ball away cheaply. Our style of play under Martin would be fine if had a begrudging, watertight defence and just a little bit more quality up front.

    As for finding City boring to watch, I can only say, ‘What, seriously?’ I resent their success because the club sold their soul to buy it, but City boring? ****ing hell.
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Is kick and rush and ultra possession the only two options then?

    And yeah I tend to find City pretty dull because it's largely football played at a slow pace. They certainly weren't entertaining on Saturday.

    In fairness though I don't watch them much at all so maybe I've just been unlucky with the games I've seen.
     
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  6. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    It's good to be able to play this way when necessary. Sheff Wed on the opening day last season springs to mind, when we didn't give them the ball for the final ten minutes.

    But having it as pretty much our only tactic is very frustrating. It would help though if we had midfielders who could actually shoot or play a through ball.
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah I wouldn't mind it if we varied it up a bit, as you say it can be a good way of controlling the game and taking the sting out of it. The problem being is we take the sting out of the entire 90 minutes which makes for an utterly rubbish spectacle.

    Our lack of ability to vary our play causes big problems for us both in defence and attack. For the former it makes teams more confident in pressing us as they've no need to worry about us going longer to hit space up the pitch, and for the latter it makes us easy to defend against as we're far too predictable.

    Re midfielders having a shot it annoys me that we hardly ever shoot from distance. Must be some statistical nonsense about how often they go in, prob same logic as our corner defending.

    Of course our winner came from a shot outside the box. Not in a million years were we scoring in that second half without that.
     
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  8. Shepherd's Clearing

    Shepherd's Clearing Well-Known Member

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    Football is essentially an entertainment, the paying customer is supposed to be entertained. The majority of fans don't care as long as their team wins.

    Football in the top flight is big business, really big business. Therefore entertainment is the last on a long list of what they have to do - win things so fans can look like they have gone utterly insane on TV screen is. So if passing it about having two shots, winning a game 1-0 where the only exciting bit was the goal for 100 minutes does it, they'll do it.

    We don't count. Mainly because loyal fans will go to every game regardless and often the money brought in by fans makes no difference anyway. If it did, it would be different.
     
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  9. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Has he gone yet?
     
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  10. Toss saints

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    I think we all want him gone...but I find this question tiresome . .and this is not at you Os, have seen it from a number os posters
     
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  11. StJabbo1

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    No, we don't all want him gone, it's a sweeping statement that isn't true.

    Lace's snippets from the director's box Saturday were insightful and gave me the impression SR were sticking with RM.
     
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  12. Toss saints

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    Okay, sorry about by statement and you are pedantically correct. About 85% want him gone ( is that okay with you). Governments get elected with about 40%, so I would say it is a significant majority.

    Interestingly themeaning of the post was to stop the 'Has he gone question?'. Hey ho.
     
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  13. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, don't want him gone exactly. Just want him to somehow morph into a much better football coach. <laugh>
     
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  14. Toss saints

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    We would all love that, and I had been in that camp quite a while.....but as the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water......
     
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  15. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't quite go that far...
     
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  16. Toss saints

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    Between the lines we read.....
     
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  17. San Tejón

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    I stick with what I have said before.
    If we keep him for now and he gets us to a position where relegation is inevitable then I would want a new manager in before the season ends so he can work with the squad, work out who he wants to get rid of and have some say in the summer transfer window and pre-season.
    I am not sure RM would bring us back up, and even if he did, it would probably be rinse and repeat, unless he evolves his style of play or he can add some better offensive players.
     
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  18. StJabbo1

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    I didn't think it was the dreaded vote of confidence.
     
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  19. Toss saints

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    .... but he we sack him now?
     
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  20. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    I would be okay with that but if RM is to be believed, the board still love him.
     
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