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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    They also told us he was a Christian

    They lied about his background to protect an Islamic extremist.

    People are - correctly - extremely angry.

    The depths that the British government has gone to protect this evil man is sickening
     
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  2. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Protect him from whom exactly? The ****ing sicko lynch mobs?
     
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  3. thereisonlyoneno7

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    I'm not going to keep engaging all night.

    But I quote those people as they are examples of everything that you have stated in here over the last few years that doesn't make them British. They are all not born here, some have no British 'blood' at all, some are the wrong shade for you and at least one of them is gay.

    Apparently according to you, unless you can bench press 150kg, get in to a fight or are totally white you aren't British. You also believe that if you aren't Christian, then you aren't British.

    You constantly imply that unless you are a White British person you are inferior.

    I'm not going to tell you to stop posting, but all I will say you really are posting on the wrong forum for your ideology. You need to be on some far right forum or some underground White Supremacist forum.

    We all have differing views on here, but you are the one who is constantly the most vile and racist. I am not being over sensitive to it, I am just saying it how it is. I can't believe that you dont get as openly called out as I am.

    You are a thug and a bigot. Oh and IMO not very clever at all.
     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Why are you making **** up? Nobody said he was a Christian. They countered the ‘he is from an Islamic country’ lie by pointing out he was from a Christian country. CAN. YOU. UNDERSTAND. ENGLISH?

    Edit: His family was from a Christian country. He was was from Wales… which is kinda Pagan in parts.
     
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    It’s not 2021 anymore. You can’t just call everyone “racist” when you don’t like their opinions.

    I am not racist. Never have I mentioned race anywhere. I have mentioned Islamic extremism. The fact you are bringing race up is on you. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about race which isn’t there.
     
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    They literally said on the BBC that he was Christian.

    Starmer should resign immediately.
     
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    Eh? I'm no fan of Starmer but that makes no sense at all.
     
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  9. Osvaldorama

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    Apologies, they were two uncorrelated sentences.

    What I’m getting at is the way the government has conspired with the media to cover this all up is an insult to the country.

    They sent their propaganda wing into overdrive to paint him as this innocent dr who Christian boy.

    When really he was downloading Al quaeda manuals and making biological weapons.

    The fact people in here are still defending him and trying to paint him as some sort of good Christian lad is frankly ****ing weird.
     
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  10. thereisonlyoneno7

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    No chips on my shoulders.

    Just calling you out as others seem to skirt around it.

    maybe it is because I notice it more as I have lived with bigots like you all my life who pretend they are being reasonable and then throw it back on me being maybe sensitive. Classic bigot behavior.
     
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    I'm not British, I am Scottish!!!! We Scots have been "****ed" by successive Westminster Governments. They have taken our oil, they are taking our water, they impose legislation against our will (Brexit), ripped our industries from us, bribe us with providing contracts to build their warships. Why would any Scot call themselves British?
     
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    When? Where is the quote?
     
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    I get it now. You can’t read so you make up what everyone has said. Nobody has or ever has defended him. We are kind of pissed off you are such a racist though.

    Find a quote from one person saying this terrorist is a decent dude. You just don’t understand what people are saying. You poor lost little boy.
     
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    I don't really think this is relevant. If he WAS an asylum seeker nobody would be saying "Ah, right. In that case it's perfectly okay to burn down a hotel with asylum seekers in it."

    But it's not impossible that it will have legal implications given that some people have been imprisoned for "Islamophobic" posts on social media, and there's also the question of how much police forces knew and whether they deliberately pressured people into pleading guilty to offences because they knew this information would come out eventually and it would be much harder to get juries to convict people once this was in the public domain.
     
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    I normally have you down as fairly sane but this is more crazy talk.

    Attributing the negative acts of an individual to a whole group is the very definition of prejudice. Not one person went to prison for calling the attacker a terrorist or for saying he was muslim. They went to jail for saying something needed to be done about all muslims - and for threatening people who had noting to do with this.

    None of these people went to the police station to protest outside. They went to places where other people - not related to this guy in any way - lived and abused them.

    And said things like “I don’t care if is racist, we need to burn the hotels down with them in it.”


    Stop defending racist scum.
     
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    Spike Milligan was Irish. He's a good example of how a term like "British" is complicated. Having a passport only means so much. For example, if for some reason I moved to Japan and eventually became a Japanese citizen I still wouldn't describe myself as Japanese.
     
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    I agree. But if you had English parents but were born in Japan and lived there all your life, you would feel and be Japanese.

    Likewise if you went there at an early age and lived there the rest of your life.
     
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    You're so tiresome. I didn't say anyone was sent to prison for saying the attacker was a terrorist or a muslim. I said people have been jailed for their posts on social media. Lee Dunn from Cumbria was sent to prison for 8 weeks for posting memes on Facebook. Didn't go to a police station to protest, didn't go to a place where people lived and abuse them. He posted some pictures on Facebook.

    https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/...rker-jailed-sharing-offensive-facebook-posts/

    And before you bother, I don't particularly like or agree with what he posted. But I also think sending someone to prison for that is ridiculous.

    I also suspect a lot of people who pleaded guilty like Lee Dunn may regret doing that. Perhaps if they'd had the nerve to go to trial, they'd have been found not guilty, like this guy: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...er-crown-court-merseyside-islam-b2636851.html
     
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    Maybe. I'm not sure about that. But then the cultural differences between the UK and Japan are likely bigger than those between the UK and its former colonies.
     
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    Man posts absolutely vile racist propaganda. Man pleads guilty to posting absolutely vile racist propaganda. Man goes to jail.

    Boo ****ing hoo. The correct result.

    Explain again how one man being a terrorist makes all brown immigrants terrorists - because that is exactly what this man implied in a series of three vile, racist posts.
     
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