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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Darren Peacock’s Ponytail, Oct 24, 2024.

  1. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Reports emanating from Mr Craig No Hope suggests that Isak will not enter in to contact negotiations with the club as our ambitions are not matching his own in terms of speed getting there.
     
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  2. Geordie Ginola

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    Whilst this may be correct I don’t know how we can speed things up because of FFP.

    We are hamstrung with the regulations. We literally couldn’t spend last window.

    We should be able to in January but by then the season may be down the ****ter.
     
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  3. Toonitus

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    No chance of keeping him... he wants to leave.... Newcastle aren't going to land any form of Europe never mind champions league.
     
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    Yeah we're ****ed in terms of competing... they're going to lose our best players and keep the underbelly.
     
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  5. Roland Deschain

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    We're never going to know; whatever's happening looks poor, but then agan it was enough to convince Gordon to sign a new deal. It's not really news, because a new deal means **** all anyway unless we're entering the final few months. We'll probably end up agreeing something with a UCL release clause, as is the norm.

    I do think, however, that the decision to hand Lloyd ****ing Kelly £150k a week was incredibly stupid as it could have knock on effects like contracts. And I also think we will have to sell someone big at some point and can see Isak going to Arsenal, which would be a real shame, but it'll be £100m at least.
     
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  6. Geordie Ginola

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    It’s difficult. I don’t blame the club in this regard. The restrictions are real and we just have to play the time game and build commercial streams.

    Isak may be blowing his own trumpet on this one mind. He hasn’t exactly started the season flying.

    But there could be a lot of reasons for this.

    We are basically just a top half side with wealthy owners who can’t spend.

    I think that possible frustrates PIF?

    Wonder why Staveley really left?
     
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  7. Geordie Ginola

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    That deal in itself would release nion £400m of spending power alone.

    The club may seriously consider that.
     
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  8. Roland Deschain

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    I still hang on to the fact Staveley probably left because large-scale investment was the next logical step and as a 10% stakeholder couldn't possibly compete (she uses other peoples money anyway). I also think that coincided with plans around how we were going to get additional investment as it was around the same time that City launched their ATP claim.

    Now the PL are doing what they do best, obfuscating, delaying and avoiding the subject. We, meanwhile, are having to wait patiently for the dust to settle but I would imagine there are a LOT of legal letters going back and forth with things like "we could look at how you scuppered the Aramco deal and sue you, or you could relax the rules and we'll just move on with our lives". Worded far better.

    I think once this kind of takes shape, legally and formally, we will suddenly see an influx of revenue into the club. Once that happens, and if we can do it before Jan, I expect a new kind of ambition start to take shape. Part of the problem is football is everywhere, blogs, forums, articles, gossip, so we live in seconds rather than days. Once upon a time we woudln't know what a Nick De Marco was, who PIF were, or anything about ATP.
     
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  9. Obi Wan

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    Oooh, so I can stay then?
     
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    I've lost belief that the takeover will get the club to the promised land. One thing I've learned is that nothing ends well for this club or it's fans.
     
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    Worth noting, he is already under contract until 2028. This is just to agree enhanced terms, following Gordon's new deal.

    It's not like he's stalling about renewing a contract due to expire in the summer, or even in 2 years.

    Any club wanting to sign him any time soon will need to pay top whack, even if he doesn't agree new terms just yet.
     
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    They'll replace him with absolute ****e no doubt
     
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  13. Obi Wan

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    Ooooh, so we're BOTH staying then?

    <cheers>
     
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  14. CaraMatt

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    Genuine question Roy; which 2 strikers would be top of your list if Isak had to be replaced in January next year?
     
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    Depends on whether or not he'd be happy for Watkins to leave Villa.
     
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    Yes you can stay Sean <laugh>
     
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  17. CaraMatt

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    and Duran …. don’t know why I didn’t think of this!!
     
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  18. CaraMatt

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    This.

    it’ll all be about the terms. There’s no problem in principle with signing a contract till 2030 if the terms were right.

    If I was Isak I’d be careful as well, he’s a talent and knows he could easily be playing Champions League football, so he’ll want a reasonable release clause in any extended contract, and we’ll want a massive one - that’s a complex negotiation. He won’t want to price himself out of a move if he can’t see us growing at a pace that suits his (short) career.

    I love him, but there’s always other players, always…. not signing another contract at the moment is filed under “meh”
     
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  19. Geordie Ginola

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    I reckon you’re right. It’s just a matter of time before the big deals come through.

    I am convinced that our commercial streams will just go through the roof soon. The PL need to get their act together and drop that ****.
     
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  20. Rum & Black for 2

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    Didn’t you say that for Bruno…..or was it Gordon….?
     
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