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Confirmed: Russell Martin has been sacked

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Osvaldorama, Sep 19, 2023.

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Martin out?

  1. Right now, he's worse than Guardiola

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  2. Give him one more game

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  3. Give him until next international break

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  4. Stick with him, he'll turn it round

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  5. No point in sacking now, wait until end of the season

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  1. Romsey_Saint

    Romsey_Saint Well-Known Member

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    Happy to fly back from Riyadh to give him a hand, I'll even pay for my own flights.
     
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  2. Saints Fan4Life

    Saints Fan4Life Well-Known Member

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    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/2...6aUR92kS9hxfbfhPAM_aem_1BZ9a_T34tEiTk3rAb67-A

    Sounds like we can't afford to sack him, but this little nugget is what stood out to me:

    "At least one club chief has also privately considered the possibility that, in the worst-case scenario, Martin might be the best candidate to bring Saints back up.

    He would be able to call on the experience of already earning promotion in his first season at the club and benefit from the additional year of learning"

    That sounds like the Sport Republic way of thinking ...
     
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  3. Billy Bates

    Billy Bates Well-Known Member

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    I’m not sure many can cope with Martin all through this season.

    I think things could turn very messy.

    And not in a Lionel way.
     
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  4. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

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    He may very well be able to bring us back up, but it is a very different scenario compared to last year. He essentially will be the Selles/Jones if he’s here and we go down as pathetically as it’s looking. Hard to get fans back on side let alone the players after listening to him all year and losing most weeks.

    We don’t know what the squad would look like in the event of relegation but I’d guess there won’t be as much turnover as there was last time we went down so most of the players will have been part of the the squad that got relegated and a new voice would be needed from a management perspective imo to mark a new season/era otherwise it’s very easy to just continue on losing (see Luton this year)

    If we start making a bit of a fight of it and hit something like high twenties in points then I can see an argument for keeping him
     
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  5. garysfc

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    Said previously, I don’t think he’ll be able to achieve that either. Let’s face it; we’ve been worked out & next year every team will press. A lot on here thought we’d be middle table last year & if we stick with him (please no), that’s where I think we’ll end.
     
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  6. Brinkworth Saint

    Brinkworth Saint Well-Known Member

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    He could go from zero to hero if we beat Citeh! (Post match for an hour anyway!!!!)
     
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  7. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

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    He'd be lucky to get a short term grudging nod of semi approval from some on here. Others however, would be basking on the warm sunlite grasslands of success.
     
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  8. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) Well-Known Member

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    That link doesn't work but I don't see how finances would be an issue. Surely we wouldn't hand him the new deal if it meant he was unsackable.
     
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  9. AberdeenSaint

    AberdeenSaint Well-Known Member

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    ......even Nathan Jones managed to beat City. But then he was just about the best manager in Europe or something.
     
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  10. oldstocktonsaint

    oldstocktonsaint Well-Known Member

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    High twenties points total? I’m not expecting us to get into double figures. We have 1 point so far. At this rate we will get 4 or 5 points in total. High twenties, my a**e!
     
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  11. Shepherd's Clearing

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    Well the truth of the matter is to get 'mid-twenties' we are going to have a polar opposite set of performances and results.

    As Saints fans I'm sure we all want that and would absolutely love to see it but also any of us who are over 12 years old can testify that in professional football terms this happens maybe once every 20 years or so in any of the top four divisions. I mean a bottom-two team with no wins after ten or so games suddenly picking up so much they win perhaps ten league games, get some draws and rack up some points. Not impossible but very, very rare.

    Everything points towards us going down and being relegated very early too.

    We are not a very good Premier League team and seemingly a particularly well-run Premier League team either.

    Shame but I can do nothing about it.
     
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  12. Saintmagic

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    Oh yeah I’m not saying we will, but that is the only argument I can see in keeping him for next season in the Championship
     
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  13. Brixham Saint

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    That quote conveniently misses out the next few words which were ..."in 2 years, I'm ready to go."
    As great as it would be to have a legend of the game manage us, I really can't imagine Mourinho being an SR kind of man anyway.
     
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  15. Brixham Saint

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    He won’t stay there for 2 more years.
    But it would be fun him coming to St Mary’s.
     
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  16. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Get him in!!! <laugh>

    would be absolute jokes
     
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  17. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    He's always been privileged to manage the biggest clubs in their respective countries with the best budgets and not always been successful. His style of football has not always been popular either and he's a bit of a knob, remember his shameful treatment of Luke Shaw.
     
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  18. Billy Bates

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    Luke Shaw is a better defender now (well, when he plays) as a result of JMs coaching.

    Sure, we can question his style in that situation, but he definitely improved him as a player.
     
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  19. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Not for him, it wouldn’t <laugh>
     
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  20. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Honest question. For all this modern fad of playing the 'right way' do people outside of hipsters genuinely find it entertaining to watch in the stadium?

    I really don't get it at all. Pass, pass, pass, pass. Left to right, right to left. It just bores me to tears and lacks the energy which I feed off as a supporter. Sucks all the life out of the game and the buzz around it.

    And before someone mentions the quality of players I find City extremely dull to. Ditto the dominant Spain side of 10-15 years ago. I just can't get my head around how this is supposed to be the best way to play now.

    Even last season we were dull to watch most of the season. Off the top of my head we had Swansea away in the first half and then that small run of home games in the lead up to Christmas. And iirc, a chunk of those were mainly the last 20 minutes when fresh subs ran tired teams ragged.

    Don't get me wrong we were part of other entertaining matches but these were down to our inability to defend (eg Huddersfield, Norwich) rather than us being good to watch ourselves.
     
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