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Henderson for Neil ...

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Oct 6, 2024.

  1. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

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    Not for me. For a few reasons really. Firstly, Saudi. Secondly, he looks really poor and leggy. Thirdly, we don't need to be blocking pathways anymore, our midfield is in good shape, another body in there will disrupt the balance.

    Shame really as a few years ago I held him in unbelievably high regard.
     
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  2. Downeys Loup

    Downeys Loup Well-Known Member

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    Already filled that spot with Browne and he would be on top wage with no guarantee of game time. Said in past id love him back here but time isn’t right. I do think he’ll be a quality coach if he goes down that route. Gaffer in 5 years with LON as number 2?
     
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  3. TopCat.

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    Nope. He's not what we need.
     
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  4. Essayyeffcee

    Essayyeffcee Well-Known Member

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    If it was last season when he left Saudi, I would've said yes but as others have said, we've got a good set up at the minute with young rising players such as Rigg and Jobe, Dan Neil behind them (for me anyways) then the new lads still to play in midfield. Plus if he can't get a game for Ajax with the level they are at in the Eredivisie, he'll struggle at Sunderland
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I can't remember ever being so disappointed with a Sunderland player.

    Some players have let us down, such as Bent, but they're not 'one of us' so don't matter.

    Henderson is a local lad who knew how people felt about the Saudis but took the money anyway.

    There were dozens of clubs he could've gone to but greed, above ambition, was the deciding factor.

    That's exactly the kind of influence we should do everything we can to keep away from SAFC.

    Henderson's life will now be an empty sharade where he'll be welcome nowhere.

    I wouldn't have him back at Sunderland if he wanted to work for nothing.
     
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  6. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    What a wonderful feeling that we’re thinking 'no' to an ( albeit ex) England captain because he’d have trouble getting in the side before a 17 yr old.
     
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  7. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Too late. Too old. Retire. Enjoy your money.
     
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  8. malagamackem

    malagamackem Well-Known Member

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    Not for me , never in a million years given the Saudi thing
     
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  9. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    Can’t see what the problem is with hendo going to Saudi?

    What does that have to do with our club?
     
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  10. Nig

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    No from me.
     
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  11. Bobcat

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    Jermain Defoe is forced to agree…
     
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  12. young2077

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    They forgot about one player who did just aswell on their return as the first time they were here. Step forward Mr Danny Graham! I mean he set the bar so low the first time it was easy to do it again!
     
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  13. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    Worth pointing out most of our fans were saying they wouldn’t take Maja back anarl…

    IMO Henderson could be a massive asset both on and off the pitch, one of the best leaders of the modern game at Liverpool and that’s something we clearly lack.
     
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  14. Essayyeffcee

    Essayyeffcee Well-Known Member

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    That may be true but who would you drop to make way for him?
     
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  15. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    If I'm honest I don't see him as a much better leader than LON who lives and breaths this club and was never a local.
    You don't have to be born on Wearside to allow this club to get under your skin. Me included.
     
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  16. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but that is absolute nonsense. Whether you like him or not, he won both the PL and CL whilst playing at a much higher level than we are currently at and captaining much better players for both club and country. To even mention O’nien in the same breathe as him is laughable.. That Liverpool team were one of the best to ever play in the PL. Nothing to do with him being a local lad.
     
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  17. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    All about opinions mate.
     
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    We’d have Henderson/Samed as the options at DM and Neil/Rigg/Bellingham/Browne for the other two midfield positions. I’ve said for a long time I don’t think Neil is as good as some make out and I stand by that, he’s decent at this level but he’s not a stand out performer for me. How often do you come away from games and say “Wow Neil was brilliant today wasn’t he?”

    You look at Bellingham, he looks quality and he’s 4 years younger than Neil. He takes games by the scruff of the neck already and tries to make things happen. Rigg shows glimpses of real class albeit he’s still very young and looks to be more of a 60 minute player at the minute. If Neil was as good as people make out he should be head and shoulders above this level by now and I’m not sure he is. Do I think we’d be any worse off having Henderson in the team over Neil as the 6? Absolutely not. He obviously won’t have the legs he used to but plenty of other teams in the division have older lads as their 6 and they manage fine. The experience he’d bring in would be invaluable, it would be like having another manager on the pitch.

    All just my own opinion of course I totally understand people arguing it’s a backward move when we have young lads playing well who don’t deserve to be dropped. He could come in and be useless for all we know but I think it’s worth a shot, we all wanted it before he went to Saudi and there was rumours
     
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  19. williebeams

    williebeams Well-Known Member

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    does your ability to not see past his move to Saudi extend to the abundance of lads from the north east who work for Middle Eastern oil and gas operators?

    not entirely sure what this sentiment achieves and where the line is drawn
     
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  20. Bucky1989

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    As a few have said,
    Would have him back but only as part of the coaching set up,
     
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