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    Anyone watching

    Anyone care

    I think whoever wins the Louis Vuitton trophy gets to take on team new Zealand in the cup

    So far it's team gb (inios) 3
    Team Italy (luna Rosa) 3

    Go britannia
     
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    Since Australia 2 won it off the yanks the mystique of it has evaporated for me. That and the change of vessels that now look like they're going to space rather than across water. Seems like the best computer gamer will win it. However if Australia win it again I'll be very excited for us.
     
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    Exactly this x 2
     
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    Not even between the Americas. Pathetic.
     
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    Last time I looked it was 6 4in the first to 7 wins to face team nz
     
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    America's Cup: Team NZ to face Britannia
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    Britain's Ineos Britannia competes during the 37th America's Cup-Luis Vuitton series off the coast of Barcelona. Photo: AFP

    Britannia have defeated Luna Rossa 7-4 to win the Louis Vuitton Cup and secure their place in the 37th America's Cup Match, where they will face the defender Team New Zealand.

    Britannia led from the start of race 11, taking a 10 second lead at Gate 1 and maintaining that lead at all seven gates, despite the Italian team Luna Rossa strongly challenging, and forcing them to keep a close cover throughout.

    Ben Ainslie's team eventually posted a 17 second victory in Barcelona this morning to clinch the overall win 7-4 to become the official Challenger for the 37th America's Cup.

    Over the first eight races there was nothing to separate the top two Challengers but on the final two days of the series, Britannia eked out a performance advantage that proved enough for them to win three straight races.

    It was an impressive effort from Britannia, over the vastly experienced 2021 America's Cup runners-up Luna Rossa of Italy, skippered by Jimmy Spithill.

    It is over 60 years since Great Britain had a yacht compete for the America's Cup trophy.

    Team New Zealand and Britannia will go head to head in the Americas Cup sail racing - in a first-to-seven race series, which will begin on 12 October.
     
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    Nz v gb

    Bye bye jimmy
    Don't let the door hit you on the way out
     
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    Team New Zealand prepare for 'trigger pull' in America's Cup duel with Britain
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    Team New Zealand in action, 2024. Photo: PHOTOSPORT

    Team New Zealand have been analysing patterns in Ben Ainslie's racing, honing their technique and making subtle final adjustments to the sails and foils of their AC75 boat as the America's Cup holders prepare for the British challenge.

    But after three years of preparation, much could depend on the "trigger pull", the last 25 seconds when the boats line up to cross the start line, when the sailing heavyweights meet head-to-head to contest the Cup for the first time on Saturday, Grant Dalton, the New Zealand team's chief executive, told Reuters.

    "Their starting was good and I think we're going to have to be careful in the start box," Dalton said of Britain's showing against Italy in the battle to challenge for the "Auld Mug", adding that while the British sailors may be battle-hardened from the experience, they are likely to be tired.

    Dalton said he expects the speed of the two high-tech AC75s, which rise above the water on hydrofoils, to be "pretty equal", meaning whichever team gets off the start quickest has a greater chance of controlling the rest of the race.

    And because "the fastest boat always wins the America's Cup", if one has a "slight edge" it is likely to win, Dalton said on Wednesday outside New Zealand's Barcelona base.

    "Although the cliche is that it's going to be close, it may not be, because we will find out quite early on if one boat has an advantage," said the 67-year-old, who still gets nervous in the final days before a first-to-seven America's Cup "match".

    An enigma
    Dalton said he has "massive respect" for the approach Ainslie and his billionaire backer Jim Ratcliffe have taken in the British campaign and in working as the "challenger of record" on the future of the America's Cup.

    But he is wary of the British skipper on the water.

    "Ben's an enigma in some ways because he's such a really lovely guy ... But on the water, he's not nice at all," he said.

    "If he throws something random, that can be good and bad because ... (he) might catch himself out because he's not practiced that," Dalton said of Ainslie, 47, who is the most successful Olympic sailor.

    For New Zealand skipper Peter Burling, who has two America's Cup wins to his name as well as three Olympic medals, the hours of reviewing the British decisions and their handling of specific situations are about to be put to the test.

    "It's something we'll have to wait and see how it plays out," said Burling, 33, who has been working with his crew to stay sharp as the challenger series has unfolded without them.

    "The America's Cup is a race to win the last race, not necessarily the first. You've got to continue to improve and evolve and I think our challenger ... has been doing a good job of that so far ... But we're really happy with the progress we've been making as well," Burling told Reuters.

    Burling described the AC75s, which hit speeds of more than 55 knots, as "incredibly powerful and incredibly fast" but easier to control than the foiling catamarans in which he steered New Zealand to America's Cup victory in Bermuda in 2017.

    And although the New Zealanders will not be defending the cup they retained in Auckland in 2021 in front of a home crowd, Dalton and Burling said there is strong support in Barcelona.

    "It's such an exciting thing to see how many Kiwis are cheering us on, how many have made the trip out. It's going to be an exciting few weeks ahead for sure," said Burling, adding that the "amazing city" had been hugely welcoming.

    "I was just riding along on my bike and I nearly ran over about eight people with Emirates Team New Zealand shirts on," said Dalton of the growing number of supporters now arriving.

    -Reuters

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    New Zealand beat Britain in the opening America's Cup races, with the holders setting the pace in the early skirmishes with the challengers in the first-to-seven contest.

    The wins give New Zealand a 2-0 lead, with co-helms Peter Burling and Nathan Outteridge delivering two calm and clinical performances in light Mediterranean winds off Barcelona.

    "We've done a lot of work making sure we are ready to go," Burling, 33, said on the America's Cup live broadcast from aboard his AC75 boat after finishing the second race.

    "Nice way to start," added Burling, before the New Zealand boat was towed back into port, flanked by spectator vessels.

    Coach Ray Davies has a pat on the back for skipper Peter Burling and flight controller Blair Tuke after the first day of racing. Photo: Georgia Schofield / www.photosport.nz

    Britain had a last-minute scare just before the start of their first race when one of the batteries which power the boat's foils had "a bit of a meltdown" and had to be removed "in a bit of a hurry", their skipper Ben Ainslie said.

    The incident meant the British were slightly on the back foot coming into the first pre-start, with the New Zealanders steaming over the line and getting a jump on the first leg.

    "Awesome to get a couple of wins on the board. A really tricky day. So shifty, dynamic, up-down. But really pleased with the way the group managed to make more good decisions than not," said Burling, 33, after the races.

    "We're really happy with the way that we went out and performed and we know that we are going to have however many tough races from here," he added.

    British skipper Ainslie and his team qualified as challengers in the duel for the "Auld Mug", which was first raced in 1851 and is billed as the oldest trophy in international sport, for the first time in 60 years.

    "A tough day. It wasn't the start we were looking for but some positives ... Whilst they had a little edge at times it was close and certainly that second race showed we can give them a good fight," Ainslie said back ashore.

    "There's plenty we'll take away in terms of improvements to make and it's a long series ahead," he told reporters.

    Data from Saturday's races will be closely analysed by both teams as they seek to find ways to eke more speed out of their boats and crews.

    An old adage among America's Cup followers is that "the fastest boat wins", with the two high-tech AC75 foiling monohulls set to be put to the test in the week ahead.

    "The difference in boat speed definitely gets exaggerated when you can get on some (wind) shifts as the leader," Burling said when asked about the relative performance of the boats.

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    Photo: AFP / Manaure Quintero

    The 37th cup is being contested off the Spanish city of Barcelona, where variable winds and unstable sea states in the qualifying events have made sailing conditions challenging.

    Also on Saturday, Italy won the first America's Cup for women, beating Britain in the final. Italy also won the Youth America's Cup in the smaller AC40s used for the women's event.

    'Bring the cup home'
    Ainslie's decade-long campaign to "bring the cup home" has been backed by British billionaire Jim Ratcliffe, who was on the water to see the historic encounter, and they have worked closely with the Mercedes Formula One team to come up with a race-winning package and end "173 years of hurt".

    Britain battled their way to challenge New Zealand by beating Italy 7-4 in the Louis Vuitton Cup, with Ainslie's team showing improved speed and handling through the qualifying races as they tweaked both their boat and sailing technique.

    New Zealand had been practising alone and making changes in the lead up to the clash, with team boss Grant Dalton saying he expected the AC75s to be "pretty equal" in speed, meaning getting off the start fastest gave a greater chance of winning.

    Earlier, there was a party vibe at the British base with tunes from DJ Rob da Bank as the crew docked out, with horns blaring and fans waving flags as the sailors and their support crew pulled away from their base.

    Hundreds of New Zealand supporters sporting black kit, with many draped in the country's flag, had cheered the Kiwis as they were given a Māori send-off before their boat was escorted away from their dock by a traditional waka canoe.

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    America's Cup: Team New Zealand benefit after almost colliding with Britannia
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    Peter Burling, ETNZ Skipper, has a pre-race briefing with the sailing squad Blair Tuke, Andy Maloney, Nathan Outteridge, Sam Meech and Josh Junior at the 37th America’s Cup in Barcelona. Photo: PHOTOSPORT

    Team New Zealand extended their America's Cup lead over Britain to 3-0 in the first-to-seven series on Sunday, after the two boats came within "a matter of centimetres" of clashing foils.

    The New Zealanders won the race by 52 seconds.

    "I don't think you want to get any closer," British skipper Ben Ainslie said of the incident in the pre-start, for which his team were penalised by the umpires.

    A fourth head-to-head had been due to take place on Sunday, but with an unstable Mediterranean breeze, the race committee abandoned racing for the day and will restart on Monday.

    Ainslie's team, who went into Sunday 2-0 down, were given a distance penalty after failing to keep clear in response to an aggressive close-quarters manoeuvre by Team New Zealand.

    The British boat had to drop 75 metres behind the Kiwis after crossing the line to shake off the penalty, handing the America's Cup holders an early advantage.

    "I thought we did a good job to regroup from that and take the penalty and keep it close up that first leg, but again the Kiwis did a really good job to defend and find the opportunities to extend," Ainslie told reporters when back ashore.

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    Ineos Britannia and Emirates Team New Zealand getting close as ETNZ win a penalty against Ineos in the pre-start of race three at the Louis Vuitton 37th America’s Cup in Barcelona. Photo: PHOTOSPORT

    The 47-year-old, who is the most successful Olympic sailor and renowned for his aggressive approach to racing, said the team were working hard on their performance to make some gains and would take the opportunity for "a bit of a reset".

    The penalty was not what the British needed to bounce back after Saturday's races, in which New Zealand started better and showed slightly more speed in their foiling AC75 monohull.

    "Don't lose faith, there's a long way to go in this yet," Ainslie said when asked if he had a message for supporters of his campaign to "bring the Cup home" to Britain, which has never won in the 173-year history of the "Auld Mug".

    Team New Zealand's co-helm Nathan Outteridge said that the starts were "pretty important" because there were few opportunities for the trailing boat to then pass and the team were focusing on them, adding that their AC75 was going "pretty fast".

    "It's nice to get all the things coming together at the moment," Outteridge told reporters of New Zealand's defence against Britain, who have won the right to challenge for the America's Cup for the first time in 60 years.

    "We'll see how it unfolds from here," Outteridge said.
     
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    You've looked at least twice
    So you must care a little
     
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    Ben Ainslie says Ineos Britannia 'can still come back' in America's Cup as Emirates Team New Zealand take 4-0 lead
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    Updated 14/10/2024 at 14:15 GMT

    Ineos Britannia still don’t have a point on the board in the America’s Cup, with Emirates Team New Zealand winning the only race on Monday. It was a much closer battle though, with Ben Ainslie’s boat leading off the line, before his opponents pulled away at the end of the first leg and managed to open up a big enough advantage to win by 23 seconds for a 4-0 lead.


















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    Ben Ainslie is still waiting for his first race win in the 2024 America's Cup after Emirates Team New Zealand beat Ineos Britannia in Race 4 in Barcelona for a 4-0 lead.
    The result moves the defending champions just three points from victory ahead of Tuesday's rest day.

    But there are positives for Ainslie and Ineos Britannia, who made their best start of the regatta so far and raced hard throughout the six legs to put pressure on their opponents.
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    Having lost by 52 seconds in the third race, this was a much closer affair - which gives hope that the British boat can fight back later this week.
    "We can still come back from this," was the fighting talk from Britannia's skipper Ainslie.
    New Zealand are aiming for a third successive triumph while a British boat has never won the America's Cup.
    "We looked at the data last night and there's not much in it," added GB coach Rob Wilson, and certainly Ineos Britannia looked a much-improved unit on Monday as they lost by the tightest margin yet - just 23 seconds.
    The America's Cup used a reserve day on Monday to complete Race 4 after wind speeds didn’t allow for both races to take place on Sunday. And it was Ineos Britannia who finally made a good getaway, a clean start for both crews leading to a very tight first leg.
    Britannia led most of the first leg but found themselves pushed into second at the turn, with very little in it. The two boats continued to vye for the lead through the second leg and onto the third, with three seconds in it, but with ETNZ managing to keep their nose in front.
    The Kiwi boat seemed to find the best of the conditions as the race progressed, and didn’t put a foot wrong on any of their manoeuvres.
    The main issue for Ainslie’s crew is that their opponents just aren’t making any mistakes, faultless again once they got their nose in front. And it was ETNZ who crossed the line first, leading from the start of the second leg all the way to the line for a 4-0 lead.

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    "We did a good job to keep in the race [on the first leg],” said Kiwi skipper Peter Burling. “Every win on the board is a super nice one. Felt more like a boat race today than the one yesterday. Nice to keep marching forward.”
    “It was obviously a tight start and we had some work to do to get off the boundary,” agreed Nathan Outteridge. “We made a step forward and were going well upwind. Happy with the result.”
    As for Ainslie, he was left rueing that first mark, where the Kiwi boat managed to get ahead.
    “It was a good race, a good start, got the first cross but they are just going well, they are going really well. So we need to figure out how to make performance gains to take it to them.
    "[The rest day] is a good opportunity to try and find some gains, we have our moments but they have had a strong start."
    The two boats will next go head to head in Races 5 and 6 on Wednesday.
     
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    not long ago nz were 8 o up and lost 9 8
     
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    Imagine how many away fans got on the pitch when the ninth went in.
     
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    GB win twice to cut NZ lead in America's Cup
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    Great Britain cut New Zealand's lead in the America's Cup to 4-2 by winning both races on Wednesday.

    Ben Ainslie's Ineos Britannia team fell 4-0 behind on Monday in the best-of-13 series in Barcelona.

    Britain took advantage of a poor start by Emirates Team New Zealand in race five to establish a 1.3km gap and win by one minute 18 seconds.

    In race six they steadily built a lead and held on despite a New Zealand comeback.


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    "We're back in it, that's huge," said Britannia skipper Ainslie.

    "Solid effort from the team. Still a long way to go but the comeback's on. Every day we're getting better at driving this boat.

    "It's a good win for us. Tricky on the start, we trained for those situations, we managed to make it stick and get them off the foil - it was pretty tough for them from then on."

    New Zealand helmsman Peter Burling said: "It's a bit of a shame we couldn't get across them and dropped off the foils.

    "It's obviously frustrating to be off the foils, we made a little error being a tiny bit too late but it was a bit unlucky.

    "That's sport and I'm looking forward to the next one."

    New Zealand's Nathan Outteridge said: "We didn't really execute the best day ourselves today, we let ourselves down, we'll go and review that and come back next time in better shape."

    Races seven and eight take place on Friday, with race 13 scheduled for Monday.

    New Zealand have won the past two America's Cups, while Britain have never won the competition in its 173-year history.
     
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