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Off Topic This heating allowance thing

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Row 3, Sep 10, 2024.

  1. cracket

    cracket Well-Known Member

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    Could get worse if they mess with the bus passes as that's worth a canny bit to many without transport. Anyway back to the council tax here's a video link Sept 11th from the guy on the tele . Keep up the payments it doesn't sound good at all.

    Martin Lewis (@MartinSLewis) / X

    Martin Lewis on X: "Warning: Miss one month’s council tax payment & it could ask you to pay the whole year bill within weeks. Council tax debt collection is far worse than finance firms. It’s destructive especially for those with mental health issues. My speech at @MMHPI campaign launch https://t.co/yAQNMfbAKU" / X
     
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  2. Pure River Slut

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    I agree with most of that as I always do. Put simply there is enough money around to look after your neighbour. Some need more because they have less and some need more through health or complex needs and some can’t earn as much because they don’t have the capacity to do so. Either way they need that help or it bites out arse elsewhere financially and it’s just right. Tough thing to get right in a world where people hate sharing.

    It has crossed my mind that they are showing they are ‘economically strong’. Like Osborn having his picture taken with scissors. I bloody well hope not but can’t be ruled out in modern politics. I’m trying to think they are genuine for now or I’ll go mental about it.
     
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  3. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Child benefit is means tested.

    Bart
     
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  5. FellTop

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    Labour on the backfoot about previous impact assessments. Painted a grim picture. Govts dont often publish these things, so this is not a crtiticism from me. It is up to them to make the judgement call. It all just feels to me like a policy that is going to echo around Labour for winters to come. They could have made a much better choice imo.
     
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  6. Fentonpell

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    Only if earnings are over £60,000 I believe.
     
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  7. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    . . . . when it would become taxable (not means tested) :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    The WFA debate has got me to looking at the state of the state pension, if i had been born a couple of weeks premature i would be worse off about £50 a week. As it is i was born May 1951 reaching pension age May 2016 thus getting the 2016 new pension. Obviously if they are doing this there must be a cut off date, but unlucky for anyone born a couple of weeks before me.Is this fair.
     
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  9. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    It isn’t like
     
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  10. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    Seems they havent even done an impact assessment. I just cant get my head around that. Just dived in head first it seems.
     
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  11. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    They don’t need it, do they, so why should they worry.
     
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  12. 123Daveyboy

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    Yes, quite a lot more elderly hospitalised this coming winter I would imagine, give yourself a pat on the back Starmer no fecker else will.
     
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  13. John Wick

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    I usually keep away from anything political as I find the average person on the street,who disagrees with the next person on the streets political opinion can end up no different to the childish behaviour that can be seen in the house of commons between both benches.

    However, the pension debate. I earn a particular sum each month that exceeds a threshold whereby I'm not entitled to receive any form of "Top up" or universal credit, no matter how much tax and NI I have paid into the system since my work life begun when I left school in 2000, I accept that, and have no complaints. I'm not well off by any means, but again I accept I'm not "entitled" to any other monies other than what I earn. My point, a threshold could be put in place for whom needs it more (pensioners). People with healthy private pension funds would exceed a threshold set and from what I've read and heard, some have said "they don't need it". Now, what that threshold is isn't for me to calculate, but if some pensioners are having to choose between heating and eating and others are just chucking it on the pile, it's clear where the pivot is.
    There will always be some that cheat the system to get every penny, ie 100k savings in a family members bank account, but that's always going to happen.

    Now I'm not one of these that want to punish the well off, but on the same token, thoes that aren't well off could argue they're getting punished. Just some, like I have said above will have accept they're above a threshold.

    It's not about "this one shouldn't get this because but this one should", it's about common sense. Not that common though. That's my 2 pennies worth.
     
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