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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. It'sOnlyAGame

    It'sOnlyAGame Well-Known Member

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    You are right, it's a combination of all the failures you mention and it is shocking. The victims families are obviously a priority in however they can be compensated for such an awful experience but what will the law do? There are so many responsible for this disaster it will be remarkable if they are all held to account. I hope it's not just one or two easy targets that carry the can but the whole despicable bunch.

    I read this earlier in the week so I had some idea of what was coming today. It obviously won't have the detail of the enquiry but it is a good account of what was involved.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62305qx946o
     
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  2. StJabbo1

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    What also needs to be addressed is who foots the bill for remedial work on the large number of buildings since found with sub standard cladding and other materials. It certainly shouldn't be the unfortunate owners.
     
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  3. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Actually it’s a sentence. Makes a handy slogan when edited though
     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Listening to the statements from the victims’ families this morning, the overwhelming sentiment is that there has to be prosecutions of those responsible. Not just corporate prosecutions either, but the individuals in the companies and councils, and in government, who made the fatal decisions. What happened with the Hillsborough victims, where they had to wait until those responsible had all died before being found guilty, must never be allowed to happen again.
     
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  5. San Tejón

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    Apparently, in May this year, the police said that the decision on criminal charges will not come before the end of 2026.
    Don’t know why it takes so long.
     
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  6. ImpSaint

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    These are 2 different things. Flights and hotels are showing you the increased price for the peak period up front. The Oasis ticket prices were announced on Thursday and the dynamic pricing model did not show you the increased price up front, it only showed it at the selection screen with a short time countdown to pay. Ticketmaster did not actually show any price on their site at all! They kept the display as 0.00 even after the price announcements on Thursday.......I suspect thinking this is an argument that they did not falsely advertise anything!

    Like the airlines were forced to stop advertising their tickets at a different price to the final price back in the day when they were not including online check in charges that were compulsory nor the "admin fees" for using cards that no-one has.

    Its a "false advertising" angle, not an actual attack on supply and demand.
     
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  7. ImpSaint

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    7 years of inquiry? No arrests, no criminal cases yet? You have to ask if this is the best way forward!. Should criminal investigation be first and inquiry after? Or should inquiries be much quicker? There is a tendency in these enquiries for the parties involved in the "defence" side of it to hand over so much bumf as to prolongue or make it harder to notice the actual necessary information!
     
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  8. StJabbo1

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    HIGNFY
    Tory leadership contest:
    EXPERIENCE.
    COMING.
    LAST.
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  11. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    One candidate for prosecution surely has to be the former Mayor of London, who inflicted some £130 million of cuts on the London Fire Service, leading to the loss of thousands of firefighters and a drop of 25% in fire prevention measures.

    I won’t sully my keypad by writing his name, but you know who I’m talking about. Later in his career he pretended to be Prime Minister.
     
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  12. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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  14. StJabbo1

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  15. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    One of the Rotherham hotel rioters sentenced to nine years. Good the utter scumbag.
     
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  16. tomw24

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    Most of that sentence is for arson with intent to endanger life. What a ****. Racist scum.
     
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  17. BackFromBeyond

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    Part of an 14-year extended sentence. Now it would be appropriate for Nigel Farage to face the consequences, being one of the influential online fire-starters.
     
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  18. StJabbo1

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    It's two tier! Those woke stop oil lefties only got five years for conspiring to cause a traffic jam. Flog the ****ers and put them in the army.
     
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  19. San Tejón

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    I think Labour will be starting the process to get their New Deal for Working People into the House today but maybe a little late for people who work for Óscar Mayer, a ready meal company based in Wrexham.


    Staff at Oscar Mayer, in Wrexham, are being hit with a £2,000 pay cut as bosses plan to take away paid breaks and overtime rates for bank holidays.

    Those who do not agree to losing what we are told is around 10% of their take home pay are being threatened with fire and rehire.
     
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  20. StJabbo1

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    Well written and humorous but reining in the excesses of dynamic pricing would score points for the new government. It may be that the Oasis debacle contravines existing legitation, can but hope, some fans are looking back in anger.
     
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