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Summer '24 transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Scout73, Mar 7, 2024.

  1. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

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    You have to take the plunge at some point. If Clarke didn't go it would've more than likely been another season without a suitable forward, this at least gives us a chance of signing one along with improving the rest of the squad.

    When you are beginning the process of building a player trading model you unfortunately have to accept one or two fees which are lower than what you wanted just to get the ball rolling. Gyokeres and Hamer were worth more than what Coventry got for them, Philogene and Greaves were worth more than Hull got for them, Rowe is worth more than an initial loan with an obligation to buy.

    We just haven't been shafted either, the fee is pretty standard for the level of player and type of player he is.
     
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  2. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    Yep, thats what some people are not getting, we didnt force him out, he wanted to go to Ipswich
     
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  3. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    Players going up with a promoted club will almost certainly have written in their contract the event of relegation means a reduction in their salary.... I would find it difficult to believe that any club going up wouldn't do that....but could be wrong
     
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  4. Confucius

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    I’m more bothered about those we’ve bought and unlikely to make a profit on rather than someone we have made a tidy one on. But that’s me balancing my negativity with positivity, well I am a Libran, no not one of those that go shush when reading a book.
     
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  5. Wes

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    Who or what are you basing the price on?
    £20million isnt cheap IMO
     
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  6. safcyellowbelly

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    Seems to me that the reality of the current JC situation is

    1. The club has accepted an offer which it believes was the best it could achieve this window with time to utilise the same to bring in replacements

    2. None of us know what the price is nor what the "add ons" are and it is highly unlikely we ever will.

    3. None of us know what % of the price will be paid back to Spurs or over what period and it is highly unlikely that we ever will.

    So we can argue over stuff where we don`t know any of the detail - why wouldn`t we - we all support the club and are entitled to a view. I hope that we can all agree though that those who make the decisions will have had the best interests of the club at heart. Whether we think they have done the "right thing" is where the debate comes from...

    One important piece of the picture, it seems to me anyway, is that allowing JC to leave to a Premier League club sends an important message to the other members of the current squad AND to future recruits. It seems to me that "the model" (recruiting young players, developing them and selling them for a profit) requires us to be able to demonstrate to those we are looking to recruit that if they progress as we want them to and if that means an appropriate offer comes in from a team higher up the pyramid then we won`t stand in their way - the sale of JC speaks volumes in this respect.

    We would all prefer that the better players we have get the chance to play PL football with SAFC but whether that will be possible is far from certain.

    If we had said to JC "sorry Jack - you`re under contract for the next [2?] years and we`re not letting you leave" that would have had serious adverse consequences to the recruitment process and the next round of negotiations with the likes of Bellingham/Neil/Ballard...I imagine that part of the process we have been through recently with them has been to give assurances that "if the right offer comes in we`ll let you leave and wish you well...". If I was representing any of them, I`d want those assurances - who wouldn`t?

    Anyway - I`m heading up for my first game of the season at the weekend and hoping for a cracking game with maybe a few new players on the pitch at half-time...
     
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  7. SourPatch2

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    Rusyn just posted this on his Instagram. Am I reading too much into this?
     
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  8. Bizarreknives

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    Where’s the money coming from to buy these strikers without selling first?
     
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  9. Carl and the Passions

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    Wouldn’t have thought so. Can see why he’d be pissed off.
     
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  10. Rocky

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    I think it's very clear Clarke wanted the move, that's fair enough as well. His prerogative
     
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  11. Flash Gordon

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    The last few pages have been enlightening and I've got some solid life advice:

    1) Have some balls.
    2) Don't be a cock sucker.
    3) Don't have your pants pulled down and get shafted.

    Over the road, they've been very informative about "cucks" too.

    There's too much protesting going on. I think the negative fans are upset because they've missed their chance to **** Jack Clarke.
     
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  12. MadMackem77

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    I can’t
     
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  13. nomad cat

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    You seem very well informed...... Or... Perhaps you just have a strong assumption
     
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  14. Carl and the Passions

    Carl and the Passions Well-Known Member

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    I think we should, with us not having tens of thousands of our countrymen killed and a chunk of our country occupied, be careful about being flippant about Ukrainian sentiments when we’re sending millions to a club closely linked to the regime who are slaughtering people
     
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    Rusyn is also an option on the left I suppose
     
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  16. Rocky

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    I'd be looking to move him on tbh
     
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  17. ab65

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    I think the fee itself, if its correct at £15m plus add ons, is lower than we would have hoped to get. However, for us to get to the numbers of say £20m plus add ons it would have probably needed others to get involved in the bidding process and that hasn't materialised.

    Good luck to Clarke, they are a decent club Ipswich, it will be interesting to see if he settles down there as he seems to be a bit of a home bird.

    Looking forward to seeing what we can do with the proceeds of the sale.
     
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  18. Scout73

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    Seri has left Hull, they still need to do a lot of work with the rest of the window

    Ash phillips to stoke on loan is a good signing, really like the look of him
     
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    This

    He’s been poor.
     
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  20. Prehab26

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    Won't be for long.
     
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