Yes. I want criminals jailed and punished for their crimes. Properly. (Deported if they aren’t from here.) And I want that to apply equally. Whether you’re far right or an Islamic hate preacher.
Very often you see claims that immigrant health workers here contribute nothing because either; A. They are public sector workers and therefore are a net drain equal to benefit scroungers (a genuine argument I have had put to me before). B. They are merely stealing jobs from British people by undercutting the market (ignoring the fact we have a huge deficit of the skill base required). There are people out there that can maturely debate immigration even if I don’t agree with them, however a very significant chunk of people with strong opinions about immigration don’t have the slightest ****ing clue what they are going on about. I’ll admit my knowledge outside of the health and social care element is lacking and yes I am sure many people do recognise the small boats issue is separate from people bringing skills we need. But the kind of people out there rioting at the moment, and those that defend them or try to find excuses for their behaviour are the sort that will conflate the issues, either deliberately or not.
If you are in the habit of being drunk and getting involved in minor fracas in public, there’s a good chance you’ll have spent a few nights in the cells, before being released in the morning. Just occasionally you’ll have been charged with Drunk and Disorderly, Threatening Behaviour etc, and issued with a small fine at Magistrates Court some weeks later. Many of this lot will have been expecting that, and are in for a nasty shock.
Os, as always you have some reasonable points in here but then ruin it with silly slogan things, that have no basis in fact, like “it never gets discussed in the mainstream media”. When you do these things, it dilutes the rest of your message. It never fails to amaze me how people who refuse to read any mainstream media, because it’s “mainstream media”, have such an intricate knowledge of precisely what is being reported all the time in the mainstream media. I’m sitting here reading The Times this morning, and it’s already talked twice about the attacks by the Asian/muslim community in Birmingham, and there’s a whole piece titled “How gangs of Asian men took to the streets in defence of their communities”. So can I suggest, if you want to be taken seriously (and you do deserve to be on some points) that rather than just spewing out nonsense tropes because they sound good, you actually check their validity. Better still, perhaps actually read some of the dreaded mainstream media - you might even find it quite interesting and informative.
Yes I have already seen several sentences being passed to crown court. Which is unlikely to be a fine and a slap on the wrist. Although being held on remand for the rest of August should also be a clue as to that as well.
I expect the follow up critique of this is that this is pitched as “defence of their communities” and the others are “far right riots” when the people who support the riots/are on them will no doubt state that they are “in defence of their community”. So those inclined to bash the mainstream media will call this biased reporting
In which case they don't know the law at all - which doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Rioting is punishable by up to 10 years in prison. And I fully expect a lot of people to get 10 years.
And once again that would show that those inclined to bash the mainstream media hadn’t actually read the article. This is the problem when you get your ‘news’ from Musk and his X cohorts.
Looking at this has highlighted a disorder I have. 55% battery...you not getting nervous? I have an obsession with 60+% battery at all times and get anxious below that. Maybe that comes from having an electric car
It’s a fair point. I would have to say that the rules of the forum are fairly strong on hate speech, but to be fair to all points of view, we tend to allow more than perhaps we should. I would hope that on a post by post basis, nothing is allowed that is specifically racist, or xenophobic, or misogynistic, or anti-LGBTQ+. But we might miss something, we’re only human. I would ask on behalf of my fellow mods that if anyone feels a particular post or poster has crossed the line as regards hate speech, please use the Report button and we’ll have a look at it. Thanks for raising this, it’s a very important question.
A good message for life: If you find yourself explaining that you are not racist on a regular basis, it is time to stop explaining and start listening.
This reminds me of a quote from the previous US Republican god-king : “If you’re explaining, you’re losing” I have been reminded of that quote recently by Tim Walz calling Trump and Vance “weird”. It’s got right under their skin - especially Trump’s. Also it’s aimed at them it seems (and perhaps the other politicians) and not all the voters - but that hasn’t stopped Republican voters thinking it’s aimed at them (not helped by Democrat supporters misinterpreting it and applying it more broadly as well). And I’ve seen plenty online of Republicans (and notably Trump himself) desperately trying to say it doesn’t bother them when (at least with Trump) it clearly does. And the main argument for it apparently not bothering them and it not sticking is them explaining both that they are not actually weird and that the other side are the weird ones
Similar, I usually charge when below 20%. For the nerds and nervous. https://www.textmagic.com/blog/phone-battery-charging/ Lots of flat batteries for those filming the roots.
I’ll have to leave that to the non-igniters, but happy to receive a PM on a post that someone thinks I might want to challenge if they didn’t want to themselves and think it might break the rules Not wanting to imply I’m a mod in any sense at all, just that I won’t duck responsibility of my views, but won’t remove my ignore In the real world I’d say my piece, walk away and avoid, not so easy here
