Off Topic Politics Thread

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Thats about £12k more than my 2 income with 3 kids household!. Don't forget I am (according to the government stats) officially in poverty.

 

This is a very common thing when people in my warehouse moan about tax, moaning about OT payments or a Covid bonus we got with the typical "looks nice but then tax takes it off you" and it is impossible to explain to them they will get that tax back through the year as tax is worked out cumulatively. NI on the other hand? Gone, that's lost. worked out on current not cumulative.

 

Hide it in Crypto

 

Lol Reform. They had significantly more unfunded tax breaks and spending commitments than Liz Truss. It's time to let the grownups resume the conversation, the time of windbags rambling is done.

Name me one of these alleged indirect tax effects that exceed the effect of 7 years of fiscal drag.

The logical detachment it takes to defend the party raising your taxes whilst blaming it on the party not doing it is mind blowing.

 

Not defending any of them. they are all **** and do exactly the same as each other. I just get on with life with a smile

 

It's not even frustration for me. At this point I'm just amused. It's exactly what I predicted:

 

I see that intolerable twat Andrew Tate was part of the false information. He's so thick/arrogant he hasn't even taken down this post, which is actually someone arrested at Dublin airport last year, and not anything to do with Southport. Social media really is a scourge.

 

Not sure why it’s not loading, it’s still up there. He really is a fountain for the hard of thinking.

 

Bull ****. She's a Maxist.

 

Boyce? Verstappen?

 

Knofler? Twain?

 

No, he means she hates ALL people called Max. It is one of the worst prejudices.

 

You're ineloquent post is based on what evidence? I doubt America would recognise a real Marxist given the political spectrum.

 

No - they are playing the same trick that some right wingers tried with Starmer. Peter Hitchens tried to claim in an interview that Starmer was further to the left than Corbyn in a frantic attempt to try and drive down the Labour vote. Trump has said Harris is worse than Bernie and Elizabeth Warren combined. Which is news to all three of them and the entire left in America and worldwide. The left’s reaction to Harris is thoroughly skeptical and lukewarm in the same way as it has been to Starmer. But the difference is they have a far closer contest so there are fewer obvious saboteurs in the vein of Owen Jones. Although they do seem to have a problem over the Gaza issue

 

I am really hoping Labour are able to find money to start making some changes soon. I don’t have much money but they can tax me more if we can just start fixing the holes in society. Mental health care in this country is through the floor and it is costing all of us big time.

I am not going to hypothesise about this kid who committed the stabbings. However, I had a friend growing up who had mental health issues. He only didn’t do something awful because mental health services were there to pick him up and care for him.

All this blame and shouting and rioting. It is starting to make me so sad. Nothing ever got fixed by a rock flying through the air or by insulting someone for not being British enough. But spending a bit more on the mental health crisis facing our country would definitely fix a few holes.

 

Probably a good reason to trot this out again is because a bloke hitting a woman in the face is now regarded as an Olympic sport.
Even now you are only conceding it's not ok in a combat sport. Just because a woman isn't going to get her head knocked off, it doesn't mean it's ok in other events.
We are in this ridiculous position because activists and apologists like yourself have looked at this solely from the perspective of the man. You appear to be more concerned about them than (1) a woman who has failed to get Olympic qualification because a man has been given a place before her. (2) a woman who has trained for years leading up to the Olympics only to lose out on a medal because a man has beaten her. (3) a woman who is competing in a physical sport such as rugby and is totally overwhelmed (but not injured) by the superior strength and stamina of a male in the opponents team. Yet you think it is harsh that these men can't compete.

I'm tired too, I'm tired of listening to the self righteous. But I won't let it go and will continue to point out their ridiculous ideology every time something like what has happened today occurs again. The self righteous are wholly responsible for that woman being punched in the face by a man.

 

You don’t know my views. You are just clinging on to this whole ‘everyone else is wrong’ schtick as you don’t have the patience to read what others are saying.
Life is complicated. Sometimes things take a while to work out. New things happen and people go back and forth on them. The immature ‘this view is evil’ stuff is so tiring. I have told people who use the word ‘terf’ it is pathetic, and I will tell anyone who uses hyperbolic language about trans people they are pathetic too.

The vast majority of people - me included- are against women’s sports being taken over by trans people. But that isn’t what this is. This is women, who have spent their lives as women, who have no penis, who discover they are very complicated in their gender. And even though I still air towards agreeing with you, I am put off by your simplifications and crude insinuations that most people want men beating women up, stealing their medals and abusing them in their toilets.

Just keep building your straw men and then chopping them down.

 

I spend a lot of time on here pouring scorn on conspiracy theorists, and I realise this might sound like I am espousing one, but hear me out.

There is a campaign of sorts going on to destabilise the country. The riots are being stirred up by key individuals like Andrew Tate and Stephen Yaxley-Lennon through their influential social media platforms. At the same time Farage pontificates, draped in Union Flags, pretending to be statesmanlike, and calling for the nation to rid itself of irksome bureaucracy like, er, our entire human rights legislation.

Those of us who have studied 20th century history to any extent will recognise all of this only too clearly. It’s all happened before, and it ends very badly indeed.

 

Andrew Tate one of the few people I have blocked on Twitter. So I don’t know what he is saying

But as far as I understand he is now a Muslim? And he is an immigrant to another country (Romania). And you are saying he is stoking up riots that are primarily target at…hang on a second! It’s bonkers

I’d just like to think the current government has far more interest in shutting this down. Both by stopping the violent riots and by trying to deal with the underlying cause. The previous government had no interest. They wanted the support of the types who were rioting and wanted them politically motivated. I don’t think they ever dreamt farage would resurface and steal them away