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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    I could post tens/hundreds of clips of democrats and left wing media calling for violence and trump to be harmed. I won’t - because it’s a waste of my time. But there are countless examples.

    Dont you guys find it a little surprising that when shoot into a crowd of Trump supporters (like in Butler) you hit hardworking men adored by their families.

    When you shoot into a crowd of leftists, like in Kenosha, you hit convicted sex offenders and ****philes.

    Huh. What are the odds?
     
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  2. dennisthewetcat

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    Obama, the voice of reason - as always.
     
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  3. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Apart from all the bombs he dropped on innocent civilians - sure
     
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  4. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    That’s pretty tasteless, Os. It really is.
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Why am I not surprised?
     
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    Was about to call him out too. Vile.
     
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  7. StJabbo1

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    Barking in Barking confirming the need to expand the gene pool.
     
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  8. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    True though
     
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  9. Saints_Alive

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    Trump is a sex offender that got hit.
     
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  10. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Much as I viscerally dislike Trump as a human being, his reaction to what happened was impressive, and will win him the election.
     
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  11. SotonOldBoy

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    And you will all be singing kumbaya when the season starts and all be friends again. Unbelievable. The hate for one person. BTW the students on NYC campuses are calling to kill the jews, how do they want them killed? Build a concentration camp in Central Park? Not sure there are many Republicans amongst that lot of sorry pieces of ****.
     
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  12. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

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    Really S.O.B? This one of many fact checks on your inflammatory bullshit.
    https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-israel-hamas-UCLA-Penn-genocide-057006125279
     
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  13. StJabbo1

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    The motivation of the gunman 20 Year old Thomas Matthew Crooks is not yet known.

    "His assault came within the context of the biggest and most sustained increase in US political violence since the 1970s. Of 14 fatal political attacks since supporters of Trump stormed the US Capitol on 6 January 2021, in which the perpetrator or suspect had a clear partisan leaning, 13 were rightwing assailants. One was on the left."

    "Political leaders sought to douse the flames over the weekend. Biden, putting his campaign on pause, said such violence has no place in America and phoned his opponent."
    "Trump used social media to call for Americans to “stand United” and show their “True Character”.

    "But Trump has regularly used violent, degrading and even apocalyptic language with his followers, warning of a “bloodbath” if he is not elected and saying immigrants in the US illegally are “poisoning the blood of our country”. In the wake of the shooting, his advisers and allies flipped the script on Biden, suggesting that it was the demonisation of the Republican candidate that led to the assassination attempt.

    "JD Vance, an Ohio senator widely tipped to be named as Trump’s running mate at this week’s convention, posted on X: “Today is not just some isolated incident. The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs. That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination.”

    "Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina posted a similar message, while Mike Collins, a Republican congressman from Georgia, tweeted: “The Republican District Attorney in Butler County, PA, should immediately file charges against Joseph R Biden for inciting an assassination.”

    The sycophantic righteous right fanning the flames of division and violence.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/14/trump-rally-shooting-campaign-rnc
     
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  14. Saintjoey

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    UCLA and Penn are not in New York.
    Columbia is:

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2024/04/...umbia-universitys-gaza-solidarity-encampment/

    Do you think their calls for Al Qassam to bomb tel Aviv are really cryptic calls for peace and a 2 state solution?

    But not surprising given these antisemitic tropes are ingrained within Columbia’s leadership:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/09/columbia-university-deans-removed

    but if you want to talk about UCLA, is this anti Jewish enough for you?

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/ucla-...tudent-attending-class-mass-genocide-jews.amp

    Are you trying to argue this isn’t antisemitism and Jew hate but simply a pro Palestinian party? Because it’s quite literally Jew hate and you’re falling for Iranian propaganda

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/9/us-intel-chief-iran-helping-finance-anti-israel-pr/

    You can be pro Palestinian without defending these disgusting antisemites
     
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  15. StJabbo1

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    I detest racism and the rhetoric of violence from any source. There are laws on hate speech that need enforcement.
     
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  16. Saintjoey

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    But you accused @SotonOldBoy of being inflammatory and posted one counter source suggesting a particular chant is not a violent call for Jewish genocide. Any Jew would disagree with that but putting that to one side, there have been tens of other chants that quite explicitly call for precisely that.

    So he isn’t being inflammatory, he’s posting things that have actually happened.

    I hope we all detest racist rhetoric, harassment and incitement to violence, which is precisely what these people are asking for.
    By the way, they also formed a BDS demand that the campus centre for Jews (a safe haven, run by a rabbi) be closed down.
     
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  17. milton archer

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    Joey, we crossed swords a couple of days ago but I want to "like" your final sentence. I am pro Palestine but also abhor antisemitism. Hopefully a middle ground, acceptable to both sides will eventually be reached.
     
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  18. StJabbo1

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    I'm anti the one sided rhetoric there's no good in this ongoing conflict some might say starting before the Balfour treaty. Plenty of history on here I don't want to rehash old posts.

    It remains to be seen what Trump says in his next speech, conciliatory as Biden's or inflammatory as his sycophantic followers.
     
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  19. Osvaldorama

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    Just seen a video of the Trump assassination attempt. You can see the shooter climb and crawl along the roof. The general public were shouting at the police and many recount that they reported it to police at the event:

    https://x.com/breaking911/status/1812650266958639427?s=46

    Deeply disturbing footage.. why didn’t anyone stop him? Why was Trump allowed to continue talking?

    This is at best an extreme failure of the security services. At worst it looks like it was intentional. That Trump was set up to die and got extremely lucky.

    Mad.
     
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  20. Saintjoey

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    We don't have to agree on everything (life would be dull and very simple!) but we both want peace, neither of us want to see antisemtism, islamophobia or any other hate based on race or beliefs.
     
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