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Joey Barton on a QPR podcast, there's some Newcastle related, if anyone's interested.

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  1. Aldridge_Prior

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    They tried to negotiate but weren't allowed as it was breach of contract but as they tried to negotiate they then weren't allowed to sack him so he had to stay. He said from then on his cards were marked though.
     
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  2. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Shouldn't have been paid whilst in prison, he wasn't doing his job. But I thought he went without pay whilst inside and this more relates to his wage on departure from the clink? Obviously the interview sheds a bit of light on Hughton but we all knew that sacking was a joke, regardless of his reasoning.
     
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  3. The Secret Ingredient

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    isn't breaking the law and going to prison not a breach of your contract and your employer has the right to terminate it
     
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  4. Nick

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    ...and there come the usual miserable old sods.

    Poor Barton not being able to get his massive footballers wage for being IN PRISON.

    Getting rid of the 'players committee' was a good thing.

    The current crop of players hardly look like theyre suffering and depressed from the big, bad MA/DL dictatorship.

    Get a grip of yourselves.
     
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  5. Sir Bobby

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    Barton is without doubt the biggest ponce around <laugh>

    I like him (despite being a bit sick of hearing about him) but he's off the chart when it comes to poncing about!
     
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  6. MrsFeenee

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    Joey Barton is, frankly, a thug. He may not have punched anyone for a while but that doesn't stop him causing trouble in other ways. What makes it worse is he is reasonably intelligent and thus attempts to use twitter and the media to cause bother and draw attention to himself. He's had months to twist the story of whatever happened to make him look like a martyr and Ashley and Co look like the devil incarnate. He's always playing the victim and never seems to be able to take any responsibility for his own actions.

    I'm not sticking up for the board, I find some of their actions bizarre and abhorrent too, but Joey Barton brought the way he was treated upon himself and has no one else to blame.
     
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  7. Amnesiac

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    Well said.
     
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  8. overseasTOON

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    100% agree with this.
     
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  9. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    What a crock of ****e
     
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  10. StoneyNUFC

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    Me too!

    Also... PLAYERS UNION!?!?!?!? What a crock of... How much are these boys on? Getting jetted around everywhere etc. That's just pathetic, what the hell do they need a union for?

    I REALLY don't want the club bending to the players and I do want to see us on a sound financial footing. We need order and diciplin. What do you think would happen at Man U or Chelsea?

    I mean, we can really see that Joey is looking out for us!?!?!

    He's ship stirring, it's what he does ALL the time. Personally I don't like Joey and I don't want to be "reminded how much shi88 we're in" - I want stability.

    I'm suprised he's still managed to get you guys worked up so easily. He doesn't care about NUFC fans or respect us IMHO, he thinks he can just use us as puppets to cause more aggro.

    I haven't heard this one 'cause I'm at work, but I've seen plenty about other stuff Joey has been saying and I am certain that I would sooner educate myself as to our clubs goings on through the sports section in The Sun!!!!! <blasphemy> <vomit>
     
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  11. The Secret Ingredient

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    what??? that doesn't make sense
     
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  12. MrsFeenee

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    Care to elaborate?
     
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    I don't know the ins and outs of the bonus sheet but the rest of this is interesting.

    Sorting out the player committee can be nothing but good for the club. This is why Manchester United are always there or thereabouts; there's only one gaffer. Brian Clough, for example, wouldn't have stood for this sort of thing.

    We see what happens when players have too much power - they become prima donnas and/or they don't train hard enough. A classic example which has just come to light is the England rugby squad; the senior players looked down on the "keanos".

    I don't mind the idea of an union in the workplace but when players are on lots of thousands a week and goodness knows what else in terms of other benefits and bonuses it's hard to even remotely consder them to be exploited.

    The way that the players are playing now shows that something is right. it never works when the players have the power.
     
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  14. Warmir Pouchov

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    I don't believe him to be a thug any longer. I was his biggest critic and wanted him out of the club but he turned himself around and hasn't looked back. He's a bristly character who will always upset with his outspoken views. But to suggest he brought all of his treatment upon himself is a crock of ****e. Some of it yes, but some of it is undoubtedly down to our less than likeable board. He does take responsibility for his own actions aswell, look at the Gervino stuff first game of the season. he fessed up straight away after the game. Don't get me wrong I don't think I'd want him as a best pal (he's too bizarre), I do think likes attention (struggle to find a modern footballer who doesn't), I just don't think he's a thug or brought it all on himself.

    Wasn't having a go by the way despite the bluntness!
     
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  15. StoneyNUFC

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    "ran the whole thing like a dictatorship"

    News flash people, he owns the club; the players work for him. They are employees, if they're not doing as they are told then they need to go!

    I don't like Ashley, but all this is just silly frankly.

    I know I wouldn't pay someone £60k a week to give me backchat or make demands, they'd be out quicker than my c0ck in a room full of lesbians.
     
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  16. StoneyNUFC

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    It's called PR, and he's been working hard on using it to stir IMHO
     
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  17. Warmir Pouchov

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    This is simply not true, there is more than one way to run a football club sucessfully, and having a players committee is one of them. Bobby Robson always had one and it worked for him. Jose Mourinho too at Chelsea. There is no set way to manage a club successfully. You also point to the England rugby squad, but it was the same when we won it under Woodward and reached the final 4 years later. There were a select bunch of leaders. It really does depend on the make up of your group.

    To be honest it always amuses me when people have a go at Hughton saying "it wasn't down to him the players were running it". They weren't he just had the nous to empower a select few to galvanise the group. It was very successful management.
     
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  18. Minty Fresh

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    It's not really anything to do with that though. The way he treated our players is disgusting. The success this season has been in spite of Ashley not because of him.
     
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  19. Warmir Pouchov

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    Maybe for you it was but not for me. He was just very honest about what had happened. If he hadn't he'd have been slated for that also. Damned if you, damned if you don't by the looks of things.
     
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  20. Sir Bobby

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    I think having a committee works fine if you have people with a modicum of intelligence and genuine heart on them, but when you have Barton and Carroll on them then you're lacking. I think the committee didn't work because it was developed through who were the most outgoing not who deserved to be on it. If we had one now with the likes of Coloccini, Cabaye, Harper and Taylor then it would work fine
     
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