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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. saintrichie123

    saintrichie123 Well-Known Member

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  2. The Ides of March

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    Did I see a headline where 35% of youngish voters back Reform? And many of the England football flags seem to suggest quite a following for Reform amongst the ranks of England supporters. As for the elderly largely supporting Brexit, wasn't this the generation that voted in favour of remaining in the EU back in 1975?
     
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    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    And give them less oxygen in which they can spout their claptrap!!!!
     
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    100% this.

    I look forward to the leader of the Greens getting anything like the coverage Farage gets
     
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  5. saintrichie123

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    Will see what the voter breakdown from the election is when it comes out.

    It is absolutely indisputable that Under 40's in 2016 were massively in favour of staying in the EU and over 60's were massively in favour of leaving.
     
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  7. It's Only A Game

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    The usual Thumwood hogwash. His appeasement of Muslims is baffling.

    1. ✔ Not much there to argue with.
    2. X Just for mentioning Corbyn yet again and referring to him as Jeremy like he's your mate.
    3. X This one beggars belief. "The epitome of what a good MP should be" and "shame he not the PM" is a poor joke. His unsavoury involvement with terrorists has already been well covered but as some refuse to remove their blinkers it does no harm to repeat it.
    This reports his IRA connections from an article published in 2017. https://www.cityam.com/jeremy-corbyn-cant-rewrite-his-reprehensible-ira-history/
    And Hamas https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/05/27/the-myth-of-saint-corbyn/ The opinions may be biased but there are facts here that can't be disputed.
    4. X The SNP have shown themselves to be a corrupt, inept government. Missing money, a general decline in living standards, health and education ( the last two Scotland once had a reputation for excellence) and independence put on the back burner has justifiably resulted in a public revolt.
    5.✔ Agree. Lib Dems should be avoided at all costs. If voters want to tactically vote out the Tories that's fine but there are other options than the LD's.
    6. X The worst thing the Greens did was to form a political party and not to continue as a pressure group concentrating on environmental issues. Once some of the nutjobs in their ranks realised they could use their elevated position to express other views the environment seems to come second. (See Scotland)
    7. X IMO in this country there will always be a place for right of centre/right wing parties and immigration will always be an issue for many people regardless of the arguments for it. I've said before that in the UK talking a socialist mantra sounds good but only up to a point. Also in my opinion, the Tories would have been re elected if they were honest and half way competent as a government. The general population would prefer centre right politics.
    8. X I don't know where to start on this drivel. I don't particularly like Jess Phillips but as I said above your appeasement of Muslims is baffling. They represent 6% of the population but are IMO, a serious threat to peaceful existence to non Muslims in this country. Particularly as their voices get louder. I will leave it there as any more criticism will no doubt be labelled as Islamophobia and shut down.
    I don't usually pick up on spelling mistakes but just a suggestion, if you are going to call someone a moron you could at least spell the word next to moron correctly.
    9. X "I see Reform as a major threat to democracy" but then goes on to suggest GB News should be shut down. So, democracy but only when it suits.
     
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    Anyone posting links to unsavoury misleading sites like cityam and spiked goes down two snakes.
     
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    You really do post some idiotic comments at times. I distinctly said that the opinions were biased but the facts can't be disputed because I knew that some airbrain would pick up on the sources rather than the subject. Yet despite that you have still picked up on the sources.
    Can't you ever engage on a subject rather than the juvenile comments you regularly make to try to make yourself popular?
     
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    Especially as I am sure there are plenty of more legitimated sources on Corbyn’s links. Potentially even his own quotes. Never heard of cityam. Spiked seem all over the place. I’m sure they were started by disgruntled lefties but like most people who claim that they seem to veer to alt-right (or at least heavily platforming them) very quickly - Joe Rogan and the much smaller U.K. version (Triggernometry) as well as Russell Brand all spring to mind

    Funny how that happens. But there is some kind of pattern as there were plenty out there who back in the day went from Labour to UKIP including one of my uncles. A political journey that only really makes sense if you have a very narrow political focus. Which I guess some do
     
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    I’m sure I heard something a while ago about how the Green Party was initially set up and funded by Tories to siphon Labour votes. I could believe it and it is what is now happening.

    They are frankly ridiculous. They want a green energy proposal but disavow nuclear making it completely unviable. They are the biggest NIMBY’s in the country meaning either an even worse housing crisis or them having to be even more anti immigrant than anyone (eventually). Although they’d never say it

    Combining extreme NIMBYism and left wing politics makes them the very definition of “Champagne socialists”. And winning a seat in Bristol doesn’t dispel that at all.

    And then as you say - when given a platform they suddenly seem to care more about Gaza and LGBTQ issues (a very curious and overly simplistic cross over as I mentioned earlier) than actual green / climate issues
     
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    Lighten up as you recommend others do, Don't take yourself so seriously may be one of yours. Your snide denigrations on this and other posts shows your head is in a dark and musty place. Your bad day yesterday has left you bitter and twisted. The demonisation of Jezza is well documented and isn't something I'm going to return to on here.
     
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    The Jess Phillips stuff was disgusting. Anyone who says otherwise is a threat to democracy.
    Mahmood said the same about harassment and hate. These are strong female characters (I disagree with their politics but they have had to work incredibly hard to achieve what they have done) and their treatment has been stomach churning.

    The Muslim Labour MP in Blackburn who lost his seat to an independent lost because he had the nerve to criticise Hamas.

    There is a major sectarian problem here.
     
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    We may argue about Israel, but I think it obvious that any force within the UK that objects to our values and seeks to impose religious nonsense on the rest of us is a problem.

    There is an awful lot of sexism and homophobia in one particular religion of the UK.
     
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    100% agree. Also, literally everyone argues about Israel! :)
     
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    Well, it is a true puzzle - and not one anyone in the UK will solve!
     
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    Indeed. But it will only ever be solved by people who disagree talking it out and empathising with one another.

    I thought Starmer’s press conference style approach today was very good. It does feel like there is some hope for the country.
     
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    I thought I didn't like him, but his speeches so far have been a real breath of fresh air.
     
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    It’s cute when we agree.
     
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    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    There’s sexism and homophobia in most (all?) religions, but not every follower of these religions is fundamentalist in their obeyance of their religion

    eg. We are Lady Parts, Muslim Comedy, not sexist or homophobic
     
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