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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Left on the Shelf

    Left on the Shelf Well-Known Member

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    Thankfully only low single figures for the Fascists. <cheers>
    LibDem gains are great for the UK - and DUP losing seats is great news!
     
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  2. Left on the Shelf

    Left on the Shelf Well-Known Member

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    Who the **** voted for IDS, Trott, Jenrick, BadEnoch and Braverman! <doh>

    Their victories have certainly dampened the mood, but as two of those are likely to further destroy the Tory Party from within, then all may not be lost in that regard.
     
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  3. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    I think Mordaunt might have had a chance of pulling it together. They will be sorry to have lost her. Again not a great night for democracy though. Although I do like the local representative that you get with our system, it does also provide strange results on a vote per seat basis, and giant majority of seats for a party that didn't get a giant majority of the vote. Oddly enough the LibDems have tended to lose out to the system in the past, but this time seem to have gamed the system by concentrating on certain seats rather than getting a nationwide vote. So my head tells me this might be the only workable system of government, my heart tells me that it's a very odd version of democracy.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    That polling site which said Jeremy Corbyn would get 5% of the vote in Islington North last month is well and truly in the mud...
     
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  5. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Is it wrong of me to wish to see them tarred, feathered and run out of town? It doesn't feel wrong.
     
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  6. Citizen Kane.

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    Reform picked up a million more votes than the Lib Dems but take 64 fewer seats.

    A very undemocratic quirk of FPTP.
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

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    Hope this doesn't come across as being malicious, but I decided to double check some of the results compared to that voting intention site Treble shared a few weeks back given I found some of the predictions suspect at the time

    Islington North
    Prediction: Labour win with 44% of the vote, Jeremy Corbyn coming second with 24%
    Result: Jeremy Corbyn won with 49% of the vote, meaning Praful Nargrund and his 34% of the vote can put all his focus on being investigated by both Islington Council and the Metropolitan Police for fraud and misconduct

    Bristol Central
    Prediction: Labour retain with 58.5% of the vote, Carla Denayer coming second with 23%
    Result: Denayer won with 56.6% of the vote, Thangam Two-Names coming second with 32.6%

    Croydon South
    Prediction: Labour win with 41% of the vote, Chris Philp coming second with 26.8%
    Result: My favourite neighbour retains on 40% of the vote, with the guy who couldn't format a mail merge properly coming second on 35%
     
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  8. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Indeed.

    < chairman deedub >

    I believe I have a fair and simple way using FPTP to
    give such political parties an equal chance to gain
    far more seats (if someone knows of good "raw" data
    sources for UK constituency results - in Excel spreadsheet
    form etc - direct me there) .
     
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  9. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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  10. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    1. Many of their MPs who lost their seats : huuwhite !!!

    2. Will Isla Bryson be the death of Scotland independence as Alex Salmond predicted ??
     
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  11. BinghamSpur

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    Not me (local MP) but I did take great delight in haranguing him for half an hour on Monday as I was washing the car and he was delivering leaflets. Then I had to wash away the slime trail he left as he scuttled off down the road….
     
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  12. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Just think about this.

    England Labour
    Scotland Labour
    Wales Labour?
    Manchester Mayor Labour
    London Mayor Labour
    West Midlands Mayor Labour

    Then there's all the Labour councils from the May elections.

    This is HUGE and it could be a force for good but equally a position where you cannot hide if you get it wrong.
     
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  13. Alfie Conn

    Alfie Conn Well-Known Member

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    All in all a terrific night it would have been perfect to see the back of Braverman , Badenoch, 30p Lee and how the **** did the biggestvwaste of space Helen Whatley keep her seat ? People of Faversham, WHY ?????
     
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  14. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I'd forgive plenty if a political party stopped lying to its electorate. I can't watch politics on TV anymore. There's precious little point. The interviewees just spout absolute bollocks and obvious lies and the interviewers let them get away with it.

    Is anyone fooled by it? If you've got the intelligence to turn a TV set on, you're almost certainly bright enough to know how full of **** they are.

    If Starmer can own up to his party's errors and sack those who need sacking, that'll be good enough for me to give them a second term.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    Counter point: Strange women distributing swords is no basis for a system of government

    Considering how tetchy Mordaunt got at the slightest pushback, not just during the election campaign but during the Tory leadership contest, her leading the party may sound good on paper but in reality would be as bad as Rishi-Washy
     
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  16. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Lying has always been there in politics but the bare-faced unaccountable lying and truth twisting since Boris came to power set a precedent never seen before in this country.
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    As much as I hate to give the lazy blob of rancid cum the benefit of the doubt, lying became normalised under Theresa May's premiership considering the constant flow of porkies from May, Amber Rudd, Liam Fox, Gavin Williamson et al - plus she elevated the likes of the randy Honey Monster and Pol Patel into cabinet positions

    ...and on that note, noted liar Vicky Ford lost Chelmsford to the Lib Dems
     
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  18. vimhawk

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    Good point. I hadn't considered that Mourdaunt would have got the sword bearing vote.
     
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  19. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Sunak finally sounded like a statesman in his resignation speech, but he couldn't relate to people...as shown by the booing as he left Downing Street. <laugh>
     
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  20. Alfie Conn

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    I find myself in a strange situation, I'm more delighted that the Tories are gone than Starmer becoming PM , very happy that my local labour candidate David Taylor got the seat , he has put in the work from being a young activist to overturning a large Tory majority, I met him while he was having a coffee near the polling station yesterday and he invited me to sit with him and we had a 15 min conversation, he talks a good one but it still remains to be seen if he is allowed to carry out his vision for the town , my last words to him as I shook his hand were " don't **** it up " he looked a bit taken back but then said " I get your point "
    The job in hand for labour is huge to undo the mess that this country is left in , to restore people's belief in politics ( very low starting point atm) carry out the policy of a new start for workers and to encourage and show belief in the country's young
     
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