General Election 4th July ...

It's nothing like an obsession, I just see Farage as a racist.

I'm sure people like me were reviled in 1930's Germany for suggesting similar things.

BTW Sunderland Central result just coming in ...

... and its a Labour win.

 

It's an obsession in that it is used frequently and as a tool rather than any sort of accurate descriptor of a political idea, if you watch enough right wing media you will hear communist a fair bit, Starmer is a secret communist, this guy is a secret communist, that one loves chairman mao and the 50 million dead etc

Just as that is dangerous and fear mongering, I do believe we should be careful not to overuse these sorts of terms that have specific meanings, we may end up diluting them and they can lose their utility. I would argue racist, fascist and anti semitic are already beginning to degrade due to overuse, interestingly for different reasons.

 

It has nothing to do with the media or anything else ...

... Farage has the smell of a racist all over him in my opinion.

I'm 68 years old mate, I'm not a gullible softy influenced by the media and don't appreciate anyone suggesting I am.

I may be right and Farage is a racist, it's just your opinion that he isn't.

 

You might be a racist for all I know, the point is, it's not useful to throw it around as an accusation unless you want desensitize people to it. As someone much younger than you, let me tell you, young people have only known this world, their lived experience as young people is happening now.

 

I couldn't care less what effect my views have on anyone, I'm entitled to my honest opinion and that's what it is.

I think Farage is a racist and he may well be.

I think his party will attract racists and that's been proven to be the case.

 

I think people over estimate the impact Brexit has had on voting. I think its due to the sleaze and corruption qguch means voting tory is almost unforgivable

 

Sadiq Khan came across well there, Kier believes in hard work, vision, will be magnanimous tomorrow, being humble, demanding every labour MP serve with humility.

 

You're right mate and I don't think it's the first thing on people's minds ...

... but I do think Farage represents the feeling that people have been cheated because Brexit hasn't actually been done at all.

 

Witch craft

 

Burn the fcuker...

Whoops, excuse the quote from Conservative Party HQ

 

Khan: A grown up government, a grown up Prime Minister, deliver promises and magnanimous tomorrow. Reach across to colleagues from the other side to bring the nation together. His tone, labour expect high standards

 

Newcastle come in 6th.
Daft twats will think it qualifies them for Europe.

 

Sir Robert Butland, lost his seat to labour Swindon, is fed up with Conservatives, wants them to return to ethos of doing stuff well, not pretending to doing stuff well and pretending to the media

 

Sure there’s some football back door they can crow about winning on the back of it.

“he’s, we won the brexit cup”

 

Sir Robert Butland: a group of bald men arguing over a comb

 

Labour hold Newcastle Central

 

I thought he spoke well, really stuck the boot in to the tory party.

 

Chi Onwurah, Newcastle Central, is a daft dog and the bbc decided not to listen to her dulcet tones

 

Yes, he had more courage than he's ever shown before ...

... stopped short of criticising Braverman though.