1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic General Election

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jul 3, 2024 at 4:33 PM.

?

Winner?

  1. Labour

  2. Tory

  3. Lib Dem

  4. Reform

  5. Green

  6. The rest

Results are only viewable after voting.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. The B&S Fanclub

    The B&S Fanclub Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    10,274
    Likes Received:
    5,387
    In that case why is Liz Truss entitled to a full PMs salary for the next x number of years?
     
    #421
  2. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    4,937
    Likes Received:
    4,192
    Because she was PM for a month.
     
    #422
  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    108,772
    Likes Received:
    67,820
    She's not, she gets no salary or pension. She's entitled to claim up to £115,000 a year, but that can only be claimed for expenses incurred for public duties undertaken due to her being a a former Prime Minister.
     
    #423
  4. Baldrick's Cunning Plan

    Baldrick's Cunning Plan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2012
    Messages:
    1,585
    Likes Received:
    1,600
  5. rovertiger

    rovertiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,021
    Likes Received:
    14,760
  6. bradymk2

    bradymk2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2020
    Messages:
    6,902
    Likes Received:
    5,894
    Should uk have compulsory voting like australia?
     
    #426
  7. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    25,516
    Likes Received:
    14,317
    I think it would be better to try and make people less disenchanted by the electoral system. The electoral system is a mess for one thing, but also I think the dialogue and coverage around UK politics isn't helpful. Too many people don't understand or have awareness of current issues and I don't think it's entirely their own fault. It'd be a difficult and complex thing to improve though.
     
    #427
  8. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2013
    Messages:
    6,647
    Likes Received:
    3,802
  9. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2013
    Messages:
    6,647
    Likes Received:
    3,802
    No, I don't think so.

    Building on what PLT said, it'd just lead to even greater manipulation.

    It suits certain political bases that certain people don't vote.
     
    #429
  10. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    4,356
    Likes Received:
    2,570
    Think both major parties claim they are going to get the likes of Amazon to pay their full share of tax. So suppose Labour go after Amazon and Amazon come back and say, "Okay, we'll pay up, but we are a major employer and we aren't willing for our business to take the hit, so we will close one of our distribution centres and the one we will close will be in a Labour heartland where there already is a high rate of unemployment"
    So you increase your tax income, but you also increase your social security payments AND it looks bad for Labour. Soon as they come to power, people in Labour voting areas lose their jobs.
     
    #430

  11. The B&S Fanclub

    The B&S Fanclub Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    10,274
    Likes Received:
    5,387
    No. If you don't want to vote, you have no need to....Compulsory = more spoilt ballot papers...adding more cost to an already expensive exercise.
    My cous Tom in the US is not registered to vote there, so never has done..Reason = those on the electoral register can be summoned for court duty, those not on the register don't get asked.
     
    #431
  12. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    4,937
    Likes Received:
    4,192
    I’d rather have some sort of PR system with a minimum percentage of votes needed. First past the post seems antiquated.
     
    #432
  13. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2012
    Messages:
    4,356
    Likes Received:
    2,570
    It is, but FPTP suits both main parties and neither will change to PR
     
    #433
  14. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    36,231
    Likes Received:
    16,393
    Party politics needs abolishing completely and also mo candidates should all be local people not some bellend with a degree in big Billy bullshit from Surrey who’s been planted there.
     
    #434
  15. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    9,193
    Likes Received:
    12,873
  16. Newland Tiger

    Newland Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    5,616
    Likes Received:
    3,923
    Only if they have proportional representation , most people's votes don't count under the current system
    so why should they vote ?
     
    #436
    SW3 Chelsea Tiger likes this.
  17. The B&S Fanclub

    The B&S Fanclub Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    10,274
    Likes Received:
    5,387
    Yepp. .Vaguely remember from about March 1966. I was only a bin-lid...Some bloke knocking on the door of our house in North Hull...Talk about a southern plum-duff bellend, miles from his natural surrounding. Some toffee nosed bloke jettisoned in from down London way...A Tory MP wanting my mams vote...Talked like he had a mouth full of marbles..Name of Toby Jessel. About as far removed from North Hull as an eskimo living in the Aussie outback....Needless to say he lost.
     
    #437
  18. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    108,772
    Likes Received:
    67,820
    Are you sure he wasn't just a scammer casing the joint?

    Toby Jessel MP died five years ago at the age of 84.
     
    #438
    The B&S Fanclub likes this.
  19. Evington

    Evington Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2014
    Messages:
    6,534
    Likes Received:
    4,473
    Yes along with proportional representation
     
    #439
  20. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    25,516
    Likes Received:
    14,317
    Taxation is complex and I'm sure the best system would be beyond what I can understand. But I can't accept living in one of the richest countries in the world with seemingly endless money sloshing around at the top, but being continuously told that there's no money for public infrastructure, no money for doctors or teachers, everyone must make do with less, lower living standards, longer waiting lists, earlier deaths and all the rest of it, and also being told what a brilliant country it is that we should be so proud of. I think the inconsistency there is shameful.
     
    #440
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page