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  1. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    We're moving further and further from how our electoral system is supposed to work: Communities selecting the best person to represent them, irregardless of party. People now think along party lines and almost treat it like a presidential election. Rory Stewart has spoken of the problems of the system and how it prevents you being a useful advocate for your constituents. PR will only exacerbate that problem, leaving people feeling that they are represented by people who know nothing about them. We need a big reset. Constituencies need to be represented by people who know those constituencies and ministers need to be technocrats. What's the point in an education minister who has never taught?
     
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  2. Pure River Slut

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    Of course we need to have people who represent us locally but then we do that through local elections. I think to get buy in though we need everybody to have a person representing what they believe in and that doesn’t happen with governments elected more people have said they don’t want than do. I totally get that having some stranger foisted on you may feel different but if the local representatives have a voice with that person it changes things. There seems little connectivity between MP’s and councillors other than those in the in group.
     
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  3. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Ties in with something trending on X, Poll shows that Tory leadership hopefuls Penny Mourdaunt, Grant Shapps and Robert Jenrick are all set to lose their seats, in what is being described as a huge relief for them all
     
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  4. alcoauth

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    I agree, but the disease extends beyond the Tories, all the main party speakers in those debates were stiff as a board and towing the line, with Farage and perhaps the SNP bloke being a slight exception.
     
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    Some highs he says <laugh>

    Great analysis of the past 14 years, have a craving for a Marathon now...
     
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    His maths <laugh><laugh>
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

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    Almost as bad as Liz Truss and Sunak put together <laugh>
     
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    Might be coincidence , 7 . Are you North Durham?
     
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    Some of the predictions for the GE make some pretty stark reading. If these predicted results come off, the Tories won't even be the opposition party! That is some impressive ****ing up from a lofty position

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    That number for Reform is a worry though - ****ing silver surfers voting for racism
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    Absolutely tragic watching the Tories begging for votes to stop Labour having a massive majority.

    They seem to believe they should at least be the opposition party otherwise things may go terribly wrong ...

    ... that's why you're being voted out you useless bunch of tossers <doh>

    They're like someone who's tried to fix the plumbing in his house but there are leaks everywhere, water is coming through the ceiling and discarded tools lying around that were bought, at great expense, then found not to be fit for purpose.

    So eventually the missus has had enough and calls in a professional ...

    ... yet the husband still thinks he knows best and stands around telling the plumber what he should be doing <laugh>
     
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  13. FellTop

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    No mate, way down in the Derbyshire peaks.
     
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    That's crazy reading. Absolutely mind bending stuff.
     
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  15. FellTop

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    That would be an extraordinary result. I am not convinced it would be of benefit, but nobody can claim the conservatives have anyone but themselves to blame.

    I wonder how many conservatives arent prepared to tell pollsters they will actually vote for them still.

    I am planning on stealing every polling card in my house and drawing an amazing love heart in each conservative box personally :emoticon-0136-giggl. Will put a kiss in the labour one and a rose in the lib dem one, just for balance <laugh>
     
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  16. Blond Bombshell

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    Agree on the racism card. The tories had to stop the silver surfers/blue rinse brigade from voting in their last leaders election because of their unashamed racism (they had elected the fool Truss over Sunak previously).
     
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    Always annoyed me that film. The French Revolution was started by a bunch of cockney geezers according to it.
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    Hilarious to see Boris trotting out a series of meaningless catchphrases ...

    ... and being cheered to the rafters by his little band of gullible dopes <laugh>

    He managed to make Farage look like the voice of reason, perhaps the only thing his drivel will achieve.

    What he actually did was remind people how chaotic this administration has been.

    After going through a series of PMs we now have three of them, Sunak, Cameron and Johnson ...

    ... all trying to convince people they know what they're doing and there's a plan.

    Between the three of them they've vehemently disagreed on everything from Brexit to the economy and the NHS.

    All this will do, imo, is remind people that Sunak was one of the partygoers at one of Johnson's lockdown parties.

    The parties that destroyed their party <laugh>
     
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  20. TopCat_

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    Not really. The English accent is used to demonstrate the different classes in the film. All of us know the difference between cockney and upper class accents. How many of us would know the same difference in French accents?
     
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