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Off Topic GENERAL ELECTION IS ON JULY 4 2024

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, May 22, 2024.

  1. Zanjinho

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    And those already on the property ladder although I suspect all property prices increased and therefore actually made it harder for first time buyers in the longer term
     
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    Yeah, all capitalist based policies make it harder for the lower echelons - it's the nature of the beast.
    I'm no communist, btw, I just think unregulated capitalism allows too much exploitation. I want to see more social-awareness in policy making and a fairer distribution of wealth.
     
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    Unfortunately, we're run by wealthy MPs so can't see that changing. Even the Labour leader is a millionaire ffs
     
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    I forsee less equal distribution of wealth in the future. As things continue to be increasingly automated, fewer workers will be needed which will set a market where owners can get away with paying workers increasingly less and less.

    I see South Africa is moving towards Universal Basic Income. Feels a bit early for that, don't think we're there yet and they're just going to hamstring their entire economy... But eventually UBI might be necessary, and the B will be capitalized. BASIC. Owners will be mega rich and most people will be very poor.
     
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  5. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Latest UK general election voting intention: 11 June 2024
    Percentage range of party support, excluding 'don't know' and 'won't vote'. Ranges given in brackets

    0%10%20%30%40%50%60%44% (39-49%)22% (17-27%)14% (11-17%)10% (7-13%)6% (3-9%)3% (2-4%)<1% (<1-2%)LabourConservativesReform UKLib DemsGreenSNP*Plaid Cymru*
    Party Average poll Poll range
    Labour 44% 39-49%
    Conservatives 22% 17-27%
    Reform UK 14% 11-17%
    Lib Dems 10% 7-13%
    Green 6% 3-9%
    SNP 3% 2-4%
    Plaid Cymru Less than 1% Less than 1% to 2% 0-1%
    *Because the SNP and Plaid Cymru only campaign in Scotland and Wales respectively, the margin of error for their support across Great Britain is likely to be within +/- 1%
     
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    This country will never achieve that while there's a right wing press and dubious think tanks all with corrupt wealthy backers who brainwash the public into believing the best thing for them is to be ruled by self-serving populist ****s who will keep them in the gutter whilst filling the coffers of their corrupt paymasters.

    I remain bewildered on a daily basis how utterly thick a significant proportion of the voting public are.
     
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    A police officer in Rishi Sunak’s close protection team has been arrested and suspended over alleged bets about the timing of the general election.

    The police constable from the Met’s Royalty and Specialist Protection Command was arrested on 17 June on suspicion of misconduct in public office after the betting watchdog contacted the force last Friday.

    The officer was taken into custody and bailed pending further enquiries, with the case being referred to the Independent Office for Police Conduct, according to the Met.


    In a separate case last week, a senior aide to Mr Sunak admitted the betting watchdog was making inquiries after he reportedly placed a bet on the date of the general election.

    Tory candidate Craig Williams, who was the prime minister’s Parliamentary Private Secretary in the last Parliament, said he would cooperate with the probe.

    Mr Williams - who is standing for election in Montgomeryshire & Glyndwr - placed a £100 bet on a July election just three days before Mr Sunak named 4 July as the date, according to The Guardian.


    A Scotland Yard spokesperson told The Independent: “We can confirm that on Friday, 14 June, the Met were contacted by the Gambling Commission who informed us that they were investigating alleged bets made by a Police Constable from the Met’s Royalty and Specialist Protection Command, which were related to the timing of the general election.

    “The matter was immediately referred to officers in the Met’s Directorate of Professional Standards, who opened an investigation, and the officer was also removed from operational duties.

    “The officer was subsequently arrested on Monday 17 June on suspicion of misconduct in public office. He was taken into custody and bailed pending further enquiries. The matter has also been referred to the Independent Office for Police Conduct.

    “The Gambling Commission continues to lead the investigation into the alleged betting offences, and our investigation is running in parallel to that.”

    A Gambling Commission spokesperson added: “The Gambling Commission regulates gambling in the interests of consumers and the wider public.

    “Currently the commission is investigating the possibility of offences concerning the date of the election. This is an ongoing investigation, and the commission cannot provide any further details at this time.”

    Liberal Democrats deputy leader Daisy Cooper said: “Rishi Sunak must call a Cabinet Office inquiry into what is shaping up to be yet another scandal at the heart of Government.

    “This stinks of yet more sleaze and answers are needed. An inquiry is needed to understand who knew what and when.”
    Police officer in Sunak’s close protection team arrested over alleged general election date bets | The Independent
     
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    basically, 45% of the electoral does not give a **** <laugh>
     
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    It's never about who presents themselves the best, it's more who ****s up the campaign the least
     
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    Exactly.

    They'd rather poke thier eyes out than even pay a half hours attention.

    The problem is the turn will be higher than 55% so a good number of these will vote on the day
     
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  12. InFrancroatiaWeTrust

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    Tbh I think this times it’s just who in your area has best chance of beating torries.

    Labour are never winning where I am, so Lib Dem’s strategy is essentially if you don’t want conservatives we are only ones that can beat them.
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

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    It is an election of change.

    The tories know it and are focused on trying to hold where they can hood and putting only efforts in there and for national show.

    People are voting to either get them out or to protest by voting fascist with reform.

    The amount of people actually voting for a party for the policies is a lot smaller than the number planning to vote for thst party this time.

    Do a lot of people believe starmer? Seemingly not.

    Do a lot more people hate the tories for tje last 3 or 4 years after the get brexit down election? Yes.

    People gave Boris an effective landslide on tjst single slogan. "Get it done, we are sick of it and your chaos' they then let everyone down on thst and many other things and had even more chaos.

    This is rightly an election of change.
     
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    I'm so jealous that your election season is almost over.
     
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    Yours will be over forever soon.

    Emperor Donald the first of his name, lord of hussies and golf courses, ruler of the 50 serfdoms. Breaker of constitutions.

    Long may he reign.
     
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    No. There will still be elections, they will just be shams to show how 99% of all people everywhere love being oppressed by Trump. We will still pretend to be a democracy when he takes over again.
     
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  17. InFrancroatiaWeTrust

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    So USA have decided that the president is above the law and can essentially do whatever he likes while in office and not be punished for it?

    Everyone saying a win for trump but can Biden not just use that to **** him over now for ****s and giggles.
     
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    He could but he won't. He is not as corrupt (at least openly)

    It's no different than Charles, he can't be charged for crimes either (which I also think is wrong).

    Supreme Court isn't supposed to be a political body, but Trump made sure it became one in his last Presidency... It's short sighted granting so much power to defend Trump now because in the future it might be someone the current supreme Court doesn't like... And he can just have them offed and get away with it by their own ruling.
     
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    Are you accusing the Don of being like putin?

    I can assure you that the 50 sefdoms will never need another base event such as an election.

    The master of coin will ensure the military have enough goats to feed his dragons and the hand will make sure the actual work happens while his grace gets head from Taylor swift on the golf course.
     
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    Loads voting Reform around here but early charts are showing Labour first, Reform second with Tories third
     
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