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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    No. It’s because using logic and reasoning, every time the government says things will get better - they get worse.

    Every time
     
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  2. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Your post essentially said exactly that.

    You would rather a puppet president than Trump. You are incredibly brainwashed and can’t think for yourself.
     
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  3. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Yawn. Resorting to the troll argument again. How original. You can’t think for yourself, same as every other lefty

    The rest of your post is all in your head. Your emotions are getting the better of you.

    If you stick to pure facts you will see that I am correct. Everything in this country is getting worse. Reform are the only party with any ideas that will make a positive difference.
     
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    I was going to post links and quotes to studies that support the forecasts and demonstrate the change in EU immigration to a negative figure. Also to the numerous examples of the fiscal benefits of migration and need to combat the effects of a declining workforce.

    There's a strain on infrastructure exacerbated by the effects of brexshit and the incompetence of successive tory governments.
     
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  5. StJabbo1

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    So Farage advocates deploying the Royal Marines to return immigrants to French beaches. What a ****ing crackpot laughing stock he is.
     
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    ****ing brilliant, great way to start the day! I'll donate now.
     
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  8. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    That blazer is crying out for a milkshake
     
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    The throbbing vein audience reaction worth another watch.
     
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  10. saintrichie123

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    It won’t be long and he will be back in the USA kissing Trumps bum.
     
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  11. Schrodinger's Cat

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    I had a look at Reform's ideas...thats all they are. There are no plans, it's not costed, it's just a list of soundbites and dog whistles.
    Show me how they plan to reduce immigration, other than by declaring war on France when we land marines on their beaches.
    Show me how they intend to fund all the tax cuts they've proposed, without bringing in more tax payers.

    Your basic complaint about immigrants seems to be that they come at a cost to the country, and that we don't have room or resources. The vast majority of immigrants become tax payers, which we need more of due to an ever growing cohort of retirees. Pulling up the drawbridge to immigrants only works if our native population of working age people is growing faster than the non working and that isn't the case.

    Reform Ltd has nothing to offer this country that will improve it - can you show me otherwise?
    Farage and Tice are a pair of grifters working on behalf of themselves and their paymasters. They don't care about the UK, they just want to create chaos that they can profit from which is why they've not even produced a manifesto, merely a list of bullet points for the stupid to parrot.
     
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  12. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Spot on. The idea that stopping immigration will somehow save the NHS falls at the first hurdle when you consider that the NHS would never have got off the ground without the Windrush generation, and all the subsequent waves of immigrants from the EU, and from all over the world. This country depends on immigrants, always has done, ever since the retreat of the glaciers. We are constantly being refreshed and reinvented by immigrants and the cultural diversity they bring.
     
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  13. San Tejón

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    Stanley Johnson proving that Boris isn’t the only selfish **** in the family. His flight had to put down at Heathrow because of the runway at Gatwick being closed for 50 minutes. He decided that he wanted to get off the plane at Heathrow and the ensuing row caused the flight to miss its slot, leading to ALL the passengers having to get off at Heathrow, when the flight was cancelled. No consideration given to those parked at Gatwick or who had relatives waiting for them. Arsehole.

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...8pNK-WipcNOwBWKhhs_aem_kxvB0IVTcrJPwss6tJZ5mQ
     
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  14. saintrichie123

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    He (like Boris ) is only interested in himself, just remember he encouraged Brexit……then goes and gets a French passport so he can still enjoy the benefits.
     
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  15. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    A black journalist being removed from a Reform event in Birmingham.

     
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  17. Gregm1988

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    I’m calling you are troll because you just are. You misrepresent what people say and create strawmen arguments to “win”. You lie repeatedly and ignore anything that proves you wrong. If the facts are stuck to you are proven wrong. Time and time again. But you just refuse to even read them in most cases and in others you reword them so that they suddenly mean something different and then argue against your rewording.

    It’s absurd and you are getting worse. Reform having a plan? Have a word with yourself. They are a pressure group - even their CEO says so.
     
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  18. Puck

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    Sounds like most conversations in this thread tbh.

    EDIT: The post above yours is a decent example. I'm not a fan of journalists being ejected for no reason (as it's Femi I suppose it's possible he's done something at an event before that might somewhat explain it) but framing it as "Black journalist ejected" to imply some sort of racial discrimination is fairly dishonest in my opinion.
     
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  19. Gregm1988

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    The issue with the post above is partly that it’s posted without context. And you are right - he was ejected for being Femi who is an outspoken left wing person. Not for his skin colour at all. Whether that was a good enough reason is worthy of discussion - probably not. It’s not a good look but it’s also bizarre framing. And all sides do it to varying degrees
     
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  20. Osvaldorama

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    Once again you are being emotional.

    When we stick to cold hard facts, we can see why the right is gaining popularity not just here but across Europe:

    “Remarkable statistics from France. Foreigners make up 8% of the population but account for 24% of prison inmates, 77% of 'solved' rapes in Paris, 54% of street crimes & 40% of vehicle thefts in Nice, & 38% of burglaries & 31% of muggings across France”

    Yes, you read that correctly. 77% of solved rapes committed by non-natives.

    It’s clear that the liberal, open border agenda is failing not only women but European society at large.

    Farage & reform are literally the only people addressing this. Labour & conservatives will make things worse.
     
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