I think if they went any further to the right they’d dig their own grave. The Tories need to try and regain some of the centre ground if they want to be relevant going forward, especially as Labour will largely be setting a centre left narrative for the next 5 years. As much as I’d like to see them rot, they need people like Amber Rudd, Damien Green to push the one nation Tory agenda in order to regain some respect and influence.
Make your mind up....so they've gone from a fringe party in one post to a needing to move to centre ground in the second post, I was assuming your were predicting the Tories were finished...
The Lib Dems presumably. They have the national infrastructure, just about, and they can point to their historic support for PR when challenged about what they actually stand for. This election is as existential for them as it is for Labour and the Tories; they don’t need to win more seats than the Tories this time, but if they don’t get at least 50, they’re back to being an irrelevance.
I agree, I speak to some of them and I'm active on a forum or two and I have seen some of them suggest "oh you know, 20 seats would be OK this time around," I said to them that it's absolutely insane to think like that. The Tories are in free fall, Reform are splitting the vote, Labour are barely challenging in the South East. It's the absolute perfect time for the Lib Dems to win a **** ton of seats, if they don't manage it I don't see any further reason that party exists. I don't think 50 is the magic number but, 40-60 seats, they have had a good night. They'll be almost guaranteed 3rd spot which will give them the clout they need.
The Lib Dems would sometimes be a party I would drop my vote, but they made the mistake of taking sides over brexit, so they dismantled that middle ground and by doing so the floating votes for me. in my eyes they self destructed. Ed Davey has had a slow hard slog to get them back where they are, I still can't forgive, it will take time to repair the damage they did to themselves, but I agree if they are not hitting 40-60 seats and I would be expecting the higher of that number, then their job is harder than I expected. Labour have slotted into the ground that the Lib Dems fell from. Having said all that I give credit to Davey for trying.
I was actually unhappy with Davey's leadership until this election cycle, it speaks volumes to his personal popularity that even mr brb of Not606 has some respect for him. I actually now think he should stay on as leader.
