(OT) Is Suicide Cowardly?

Bye bye

 

No. That they will be better off, or have an easier or better life without you there. That the self-esteam is so low and depression so bad thet they feel they are only a hinderance and a much more negative impact than their passing would be.

You make a good point about it not being bravery. (Excluding the Japanese way of thinking as previously mentioned - sure we have enough to contend with just on western philosophy ) I would strongly urge anyone to reconsider that opinion. Do we really wish to glorify suicide?

Suicide is a tragic, terrible waste and I really cannot express the sympathy I feel for anyone it has touched.

Night all, take care.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-BtquTKw78&feature=related

This song is enough to make you cry your eyes out - Suicide is Painless, M.A.S.H theme[video=youtube;2-BtquTKw78]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2-BtquTKw78[/video]

 

It's not cowardly, but it is selfish, especially if you have children!

 

Not one of us knows what makes another human being take their own life.

My mate took his own life in 1984 and to this day we all wonder why he did it. I wont go into detail how he did it but it was cruesome.
We had some great times together and usually he was the life and soul of the party and usually got the lass at the end of the night.
Did me and the others' know what he was thinking, not a thing. Could we have helped him if we had, I would like to have thought so, but as I said previously, it was cruesome and there was no way he wanted help, he wanted to die.

When I think or talk about with mates we only remember the good times.

Was he a coward, no way just someone who was in torment.

 

Its impossible to describe or understand the irrational thoughts that go through someones head at a time of extreme distress or depression. Just very very sad that he didnt find it possible to wait long enough to either rethink or get help.
My thoughts and prayers go out to him and also mainly those left behind particularly his family and close friends. Good luck to them in the future, this tragedy will live with them forever.
RIP Gary

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVcuZBDu48I

Scroobius Pip's song/rap/poem on this exact topic. In his opinion, the answer to the question posed here is yes.

 

A friend of mine left her husband. They had 2 children, but the marriage wasn`t working out. She wasn`t happy, and didn`t want to be stuck with him for the rest of her life. After a couple of weeks of this separation he said to her "If you don`t come back to me by Friday, I'll kill myself". She laughed this off, seeing it as further evidence as to why she wanted to be away from him.
A few days later he was found dead.
He left a small note, pretty much blaming her for everything.
She'll have to deal with this for the rest of her life. She'll have to explain to the children how daddy died. The children will have this hanging over them all their lives. She'll have to face his family, all of whom blame her for the death of their boy - not fair but it helps them cope.
As she says, he used his death as weapon to hit her with. It was like "Here you are. Here's this huge bucket of ****. Go on, lets see how you deal with that".
All she wanted was to be happy. She just wanted a divorce. Its not a crime. As she says, people do it every day - why did she have to draw the short straw?

Suicide selfish? You bet.

 

I'd agree that 'selfish' would be a good way to describe suicide. Cowardly is a bit much - it allows the person to avoid taking responsibility for their lives and take the 'easy way out'. But having suffered depression a fair bit, I can understand how surprisingly viable an option it becomes.

And once you go beyond the point of return, I'm sure its not that hard a decision.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...omment-Twitter-described-suicide-selfish.html

Getting abuse for saying similar to what some people in this thread have basically said. A case of because he's Joey Barton it seems. Shaun Proud, with two of the twitter comments, I have known since primary school.

I personally think its a selfish act.