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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. TeamOfTalents

    TeamOfTalents Well-Known Member

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    This thread title is looking quite optimistic now <laugh>
     
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  2. Yes but no but

    Yes but no but Well-Known Member

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    Yeah defo but there might be more at play than that. Like I say moyes came to us and spent money, but the dressing room was poison, club a mess. They year before he got lorient to top half and was linked to Leeds job
     
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  3. CR17

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    Was Le Bris in charge of recruitment? I’m sure they have a sporting director
     
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  4. JHmackem

    JHmackem Well-Known Member

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    Moyes was part of the reason the dressing room was toxic to be fair though. It was him who brought in Djilibodji and N'Dong.
     
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  5. CR17

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    We should be spending it though. That’s the point of this model, to reinvest what you make. And if it’s true what bob says and we are gonna have a proper go he could be backed well here
     
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  6. JHmackem

    JHmackem Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter whether he was or not. Fact of the matter is is that he's going to need to be able to take players who cost next to nothing, and turn them into more valuable players. That's how we operate.

    So far, he's proven he can't do that...hence why they got relegated.
     
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  7. JHmackem

    JHmackem Well-Known Member

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    That's not our model though. Our model is to buy players for a couple of million, sell them for 20m+...then scale it up, whilst running sustainably.

    I'd be very surprised if we spend all the money we get for Clarke this summer.
     
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  8. John 11:35

    John 11:35 Well-Known Member

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    When I was on Pancho's hit list, I learned to avoid phrases that trigger an outright ban and replace them with phrases that sounded harmless but annoyed the f*** out of him

    I didn't choose the thug life, the thug life chose me
     
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  9. sheepman

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    Yea we are waiting for the euros to end so we can appoint Southgate
     
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  10. CR17

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    Would you not argue that’s why his players went for big money because he did do that previous though?
     
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  11. Chadm93

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    Burnley appointed a new first team coach before a new manager imagine the fume if we did that
     
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  12. Scout73

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    He did prove that the season before tho

    If we appointed him this time last yr we probably all would be buzzing, they played cracking football the season before n he developed a lot of young players

    Last season tho they were boring to watch, went more direct and he really struggled to adapt when things were going wrong

    I wouldnt be keen on him as lots of warning signs with how he did last season but he would def get my backing - n hopefully he performs like he did the season before
     
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  13. JHmackem

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    Perhaps, yeah. But he wasn't able to do it last season...which is why they went down.
     
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  14. One footed wonder

    One footed wonder Well-Known Member

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    I’d be surprised if we ever know what the fee we get actually is…..should be great for people kicking off
     
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  15. JHmackem

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    That's my whole point though. Had his relegation and 10th place finish been the other way around, I'd have been more on board, because it would show that he's able to learn from his mistakes.

    Him having a relegation on his CV doesn't concern me, it's us going for him straight after it when we don't know if he's able to react to that.

    Sometimes failure is what makes you, but sometimes it breaks you and it's a big risk we're playing by hoping it's the former.
     
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  16. Scout73

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    Some times thats when you find the gems tho, bayern munich just appointed kompany on the back of a relegation.

    If he backed up his 1st season with another high finish he would have been out of reach. Sometimes its about spotting something in someone that others dont see

    Now of course he might struggle but he also could have learnt from last season n come back n even better manager

    He is really highly rated for his youth coaching
     
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  17. JHmackem

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    Actually edited my post before you replied to this and sort of said the same thing.

    If it is Le Bris we go for, which it looks like it could be, then obviously we've just got to all get behind him and hope he thrives.

    Don't get me wrong, this is all just me airing my concerns, I'll still back him if it is him (what choice will I have), but it worries me that a big portion of our fanbase won't based on that relegation in the season just gone, and it'll turn into another Beale scenario.

    From the moment the head coach is announced, they'll have my full backing...but until then, I'm just cautious.
     
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  18. Dave_39

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    lets hope we get a leak later and a annoucement tomorrow since it Friday after all tomorrow
     
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  19. Chunksafc

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    Haway the Friday announcement.

    Bring the weekend in with a bang
     
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  20. young2077

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    Any news yet?
     
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