New Head Coach

Huzzah

 

I don't agree that a new Head Coach with his own playing identity would not be using any of the first 2 weeks of pre-season at a new club to instil that identity.

Maybe in the olden days when it was all 4-4-2 and limited tactically. But nowadays? No chance. The Head Coach will absolutely be more involved in the first 2 weeks than just fitness training.

 

I know South will agree with you, but I disagree, nee good training what you don't know you've got. Got to find out who's fit, weight, fines, gear and lockers.

We'll beg to differ on opinion.

 

It really has to be this week. We CANNOT start the new season prep with Dumb & Dumber in charge

 

Not wanting to argue, just clarify. My point is you can do both. You can do all the fitness training, metric testing etc, whilst also training on tactics and playing style. Its not one or the other. These players aren't coming back a stone overweight needing to run marathons each day, they will have kept up a level of fitness.

 

It’s just downright stupid to not have a new head coach ready for 1st day of pre season. At least give the players some reassurance on what is going on and what the plans are. Had the entire break to get someone in for them

 

Tomorrow is going to be a nightmare. If Rigg doesn't sign that deal, it's going to get really toxic

 

Correct, would he sign if we don’t who the coach is ? I’m not sure I would

 

Disagree, it's not worth trying to instill values and formations if they haven't been checked and welcomed back

 

Agreed

 

Coaches come and go. He knows he'll get more gametime here than anywhere else. I'm confident he'll sign

 

So am I

 

Do you think they only train for an hour a day? They can get measured, fitness tests each morning for the first week and do tactical training in afternoon. Even if thats sitting in a lecture theatre being coached via video.

I know you'll just say "agree to disagree" again... so...

@FellTop will know. Is the first 2 weeks of pre-season just fitness testing? Or is there more to it?

 

Whether there is more to it or not, the fact is the HC would be analysing the squad and working out what he needs and who will be going etc.

Terrible situation for the players the uncertainty, especially if your a player on the fringes, you want to know so you can sort a move out

 

My point was the next coach doesn't need to be there first few days to instil any ideas or theories or formations... it's all about welcoming back and seeing what we have

 

The fitness work is part of the tactical work in this day and age. Some head coaches are big on it because of their desired style of play whereas some just want players at a general decent level of fitness. Bielsa and Poch are known for running their squads into the ground during pre season and you can see that with how both coaches set up within games. Lets say we come back for pre season and Dodds is in charge and he decides the players need to be at a certain level of fitness and to start prepping the squad to play in a certain style then in the upcoming weeks the new head coach comes in and realises he wants the squad at an even higher level and to play a completely different style that means we have wasted time and have to start all over again.

People can think we don't need a head coach before pre season starts but if you think that you are wrong. They need to be there to oversee everything, get their ideas across from day1 and be involved with analysis with both the squad and individuals.

Running any training session, whether it be purely fitness or tactical, without the oversight of the head coach for the upcoming season is absolutely pointless.

It's not the 80s anymore.

 

Dunno who I'm agreeing/disagreeing with re pre season, but the optics of starting the new season/pre-season without a Head Coach are minging.

 

No it isn't. At all.

 

If I was a player I’d have went away thinking we will have a new head coach for when we come back. Now if you’re in Clarke or Rigg’s situation if I arrived back and still didn’t have a new head coach or any clue on how the future is going to look and the transfer window is open. I’d be looking for options elsewhere rather than gamble my future anymore at Sunderland

 

Yes it is.