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Euro 2024

Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by notDistantGreen, May 21, 2024.

  1. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    I think the one concern was Phil Foden. At times this season, he’s been Man City’s best player. In that sort of company, that is saying something.

    According to the BBC’s poll of fans’ votes, he was England’s poorest player last night with 4.64 out of 10, against Bellingham’s 8.2 and Saka’s 7.2. Perhaps that’s a bit harsh but nevertheless, I thought he contributed very little given what he’s obviously capable of.

    He’s a big talent and.Southgate needs to get more out of him somehow.

    By comparison, I thought more modestly rated Jerrod Bowen made an impact when he came on, bustling around the pitch and making a good chance. That again fits with the fan’s votes: he got a 6.55. He spent of lot of last season playing as a No 9 for West Ham due to injuries to others. That’s a role that’s not suited to him at all but he plugged away at it without complaint. He didn’t appear in any suggested England starting 11 I saw, but if Foden doesn’t deliver on what we know he has to offer.. who knows?
     
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    Might need Jack Grealish.....oh oh.....he aint there.....oops.
     
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    This is becoming the Unfriendly Games.

    There have been complaints about England fans singing “10 Little Bombers” which apparently refers to RAF Bomber Command’s activities in WW2.

    Meanwhile, the Croatians have apparently been singing about the killing of Serbs during the Balkan Wars.
     
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    England get a lucky draw in my opinion.....why is Pickford taking free kicks on the half-way line.....a cock up could make it very embarrassing for him being so far out of his ground.

    Why are England not playing the style that makes them so successful in the Premiership.....Foden and Bellingham not really in the game.

    Getting out of the group will be about the best this team can achieve.
     
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    Very poor performance.

    You have to point the finger at Kane, Foden and Alexander-Arnold

    Kane drops into midfield too much: he always has but we have a wealth of attacking midfield talent and we need someone to play on the shoulder of defenders like Watkins did when he came on. We don’t need a centre forward getting in the way and slowing things down

    Which brings us to Alexander-Arnold. He is the long pass, long range goal and free kick king and when it comes off, it’s spectacular. But he can’t defend and his general play is less impressive. If you watch him on a few highlights, he looks world class. Watch the full 90 minutes and he’s much less impressive. His overall play is mot up to international standard for me I’m afraid and I fear he’s only in because of press and media pressure.

    So the defence picks itself so I’d go for:

    Rice, Bellingham
    Saka, Foden, Gordon
    Watkins

    Rice sits and Bellingham has the licence to get forward. That’s where Bellingham started his England career and of course he immediately looked as though he’d played there 100 times. In some ways No 8 is a better role for him as he’s more difficult to pick up when he decides to go.

    Southgate has to do something to shake it up as tougher tests are to come.
     
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    Have I missed something !

    I have seen no sign of Wayne Rooney on BBC's Euro 2024 coverage as yet.......weren't we told that PAFC will not have him full time until after the tournament is finished.......or is he yet to start possibly after the league stage is finished when we get to the knock-out part of the competition.
     
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    I’ve seen him. Not sure which game it was though.
     
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    Will he be wearing his Argyle T-shirt/Blazer.....I bet he ain't.
     
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    I have a confession to make.....I didn't see the end of the England game last night.

    NO....I hadn't found some more exciting drying paint somewhere else to watch.

    NO....I hadn't flicked channels and found some other programme.with some actual life in it.

    I HAD ACTUALLY.....fallen asleep.....and they where actually just talking about the odd moment when proper football actually happened.

    I had to quickly look at my mobile to check the result.......surprise surprise......0-0.

    Every team is playing the same style of football....the keeper just passes it a few feet to another player....who passes it square across to another player....who rolls it on to another player....who then starts the sequence all over again in the other direction.....and guess what...the ball ends uo with guess who.....................the GOALKEEPER again .....this can happen many times.....and if we're lucky the ball sometimes inches forward...eventually over the half way line.....if no opening appears the ball will start to go backwards and guess what ....end up back with the GOALKEEPER again......BUT there is a difference this time....the keeper is now 30 YARDS up field.......in more exciting moments (yawn) the ball might get level with the opposing penalty area.....and the ball will be passed to and fro from left to right....and from right to left and if no penetration takes place the ball ends up being passed backwards until it get to the .....................................................................................................................................................................................EFFING GOALKEEPER.

    Is this the modern games answer.....the dread is that if a team scores early (probably an own goal it seems) the match can seem to be decided and that is it a 1-0 result.

    England looked terrible...deviod of any attacking ideas.....it seems that Harry Kane is on the pitch but not involved in actually touching the ball for long periods.

    Thank goodness we have some tennis to watch.....these players actually seem to be alive and breathing.

    I think that Gareth Southgate's reign is coming to and end.....seven years of reasonable success.....thank you Gareth....lets move on to the next generation.

    The maddening thing is that England possess maybe four or five of the best players at this tournament.....but they just as well be wearing chains and shackels for all the freedom they have to actually play football.....in their club teams they come alive.....but playing for England they seem to have to play a totally different style of football and it is horrible to watch.
     
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