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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Is it called Reform after the school their candidates and it seem most of their followers attended?
     
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  2. Osvaldorama

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    <laugh>

    I’m going to stop this convo now because I find it genuinely mental.

    No Putin is not a terrorist. He is an elected (fraudulently or not) leader of a global super power that has nuclear weapons.

    You cannot possibly equate him with a small terrorist group and lump them in together.

    What you are saying is completely mad.
     
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  3. tiggermaster

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    Lost the argument, change the terms of reference.?.. sad is being kind.
     
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  4. Shandy_top_89

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    I wouldn't worry too much at this stage, I think there is a lot of artificially generated hype and noise. Although he could well get himself and Tice into the Commons this election.

    Next election is probably the one we need to watch out for if the Conservatives truly collapse, but personally i'll believe the Tories collapse to that extent when I see it.

    Farage is nowhere near as popular here as Trump is in the US at the moment.
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    It’s called Reform after that reconstituted gammon you can buy cheap in supermarkets.
     
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  6. Schad

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    It's exactly what happened in Canada. The Progressive Conservatives (a strange anachronism of a name) got wiped out in 1993, with our own Reform Party coming to the fore. The two later merged, but with the Reform types holding most of the power.

    The good news is that one of the factors that allowed that to happen isn't likely to present here. Canadian Reform was very much a regional party initially, based in the Prairies, so they were able to build a sizable caucus from a fairly meagre percentage of the popular vote. Farage's outfit doesn't have the same advantage, so there's every chance that their surge in popular vote translates to perhaps a couple seats.
     
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  7. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    It’s so tiring. But if he wasn’t here, who would I argue with?
     
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  9. San Tejón

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    I was actually thinking that if Farage ends up running the Tory party it might drive those supporters, who consider themselves right of centre, into Starmer’s arms, with his straddling the centre line approach.
    I know they have voted for some horror shows but is Farage too far to the right even for them?
     
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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    What's your thoughts on VAR?
     
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    Sadly, totally with you on that one. Can’t stand it!
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Fair enough. Can't help you then I'm afraid!
     
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  13. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    I’m voting SNP in Frome and East Somerset as they have promised to abolish VAR!
     
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  14. San Tejón

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    Jonathan Pie - not a fan of Farage.

     
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    Just PM me your £25
     
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  17. ImpSaint

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    Probably because the UK (despite the reports) is nowhere near as racist, Godfearing and conspiracy theorising as the US......Over there huge amounts of folks are absolutely mental
     
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  18. ImpSaint

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    Someone taking a Rush song lyrics and adapting them to their cartoon?

    There is unrest in the forest
    Trouble with the trees
    For the maples want more sunlight
    And the oaks ignore their pleas

    The trouble with the maples
    (And they're quite convinced they're right)
    They say the oaks are just too lofty
    And they grab up all the light
    But the oaks can't help their feelings
    If they like the way they're made
    And they wonder why the maples
    Can't be happy in their shade

    There is trouble in the forest
    And the creatures all have fled
    As the maples scream, "Oppression"
    And the oaks just shake their heads

    So the maples formed a union
    And demanded equal rights
    They say, "The oaks are just too greedy
    We will make them give us light"
    Now there's no more oak oppression
    For they passed a noble law
    And the trees are all kept equal
    By hatchet, axe, and saw
     
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  19. StJabbo1

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    Only the lunatic fringe in blighty.
     
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    The US also has a genuine culture war going on.

    They have genuine racial tension.
    They have a war on women’s rights over their own bodies.
    They have intense conflict over basics like sex education.
    They have a system that separates church and state that isn’t working, as religious ideology dominates policy.
     
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