Off Topic JULY 4th 2024 6 months JAN 2025 ..chaos+ more fibs +roughshod attitudes+backtracking +++ C R A S H++

Added together Tories and Reform have 36% to Labour 43%, much better together surely?

 

Unlikely, I consider myself centre left and I’d rather eat my own testicles than vote Reform

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Seriously I’d say Labour at present are pretty middle ground, hence why many centre right tories Torries are switching.

imo the more the Tory party lurch to the right the harder they’ll find it. Much like Labour did when they went left with Corbyn.

 

Mmmmm testicles

 

Labour is to put a government-owned power company at the heart of the UK’s energy system for the first time since the privatisation of the industry in 1990, in one of Keir Starmer’s boldest pledges so far.

Great British Energy, [ GBE ] with £8bn of investment, forms the centrepiece of Labour’s promise to decarbonise the electricity supply by 2030.
This would stop well short of any form of renationalisation:

GB Energy would be a state-owned investment vehicle and company working alongside and often in partnership with the existing private sector suppliers.
So whats the plan "buy out" small companies.. or stop them building new sites. Bearing in mind .GOV has more often than not the last word on where and how to build!

The plan is for it to be largely invisible to households, not offering electricity directly to consumers ........
so they sell it to the suppliers, and ensure it undercuts other suppliers, so is low cost and and to be passed on to consumer [ bear in mind public companies rarely make a profit! ]

Financing and helping to build low-carbon infrastructure, from windfarms to – potentially – nuclear reactors. Where will we put nuclear reactors!!! look at Hinkley point £trn's spent! at sea level and sea levels rising. They need masses of water.. masses in UK OUR COAST IS ONLY PLACE WE HAVE THAT!
BEAR IN MIND THE 10 MILLION RISE OF POPULATION DOWN TO IMMIGRATION IS LIKELY TO ADD ANOTHER 10 million in next 10 years or so and we are already struggling with water supplies/ sewage disposal / hospital waiting lists / doctor appointments / lack of roads to accomodate future traffic severe lack of schools in the future .. oooops I digress ,, oh thats what we have at the moment though.......

On the face of it a couple comments by flip flop in his manifesto speech state " dont expect anything we are promising to happen straight away! uuuuuumm danger flag there then.
Setting up GBE is kikely to take a year or so, already there is planning permissions being sought for dozens of wind farms and solar farms so will they join the que or take the pi$$! If passing on the cheaper [ when it eventually comes ] energy where does that money go, in dribs and drabs, back to .gov to repay the £bn's it has cost probably starting in about 4 years time ........... when the country is nearly back to 2009 /2010 debt levels.

vote KAMIKAZE KEIR!

 

More chance of Nige coming back and getting us promoted to the PL. Although you'd probably believe that as well if it's on Social Media.....

 

FYI .. SMOKE AND MIRRORS

The tax rises and spending commitments promised by Labour are "trivial" and do "almost nothing" to address the "deep-seated problems" diagnosed by Labour, says the Institute of Fiscal Studies (IFS).
Paul Johnson, IFS director, says: "On current forecasts, and especially with an extra £17.5bn borrowing over five years to fund the green prosperity plan, this leaves literally no room – within the fiscal rule that Labour has signed up to – for any more spending than planned by the current government.
"And those plans do involve cuts both to investment spending and to spending on unprotected public services. Yet Sir Keir Starmer effectively ruled out such cuts."

Labour would raise £8bn through measures including putting VAT on private school fees, closing loopholes and taxing energy oil and gas firms. [ MOST PRIVATE SCHOOLS have a very high percentage of can only just afford students ]
Note ... so any gains would be off set by those schools losing pupils ... operating at a loss and not paying as much tax! ?

 

Watch Ben Elton - The Great Railway Disaster on channel 4, to see how badly a privatised monopoly works, and how public money is ploughed into, and is abused by these companies, and try to be open minded.

 

More FYI ........

Labour’s plan for a “review of the pensions landscape” could be significant for younger workers.
It could decide at what age some of their wages are automatically diverted to pension savings, what they need to earn before that happens, how much is transferred, and where it gets invested.
When every penny counts for young employees, that is important.

As always, there’s interest in what’s excluded from a manifesto, not just what’s included.
There’s no mention of compensation for Waspi women, despite an ombudsman’s recent recommendation that they should be entitled to it.

Campaigners describe the absence as “hugely disappointing”.
The lifetime allowance isn’t mentioned either, but we know the plan to reintroduce this pension savings cap was recently dropped by Labour. ... SNEAKY

 

I think that’s a misprint , it should say, it should be shot, not has a shot

Seriously even “has a shot” doesn’t mean anything, it doesn’t say they’re going to vote for them does it?.

 

Are waiting lists soaring, as Angela Rayner claimed? BBC Verify

Progress on waiting lists has “stagnated”, according to the independent health think tank, the Nuffield Trust.
So waiting lists aren’t currently “soaring” as Angela Rayner suggested when speaking at Labour’s manifesto launch.
Nor are they “coming down” as Rishi Sunak said last night during Sky’s TV debate.

Both can point to versions of the data that support their argument.
Waiting lists now are far higher than they were when the Conservatives came to power in 2010 [ but in 2 years previously had started to rise ] and higher than when Sunak pledged to reduce them in January 2023.
But they’re lower than their peak last September.
However, the most recent few months don’t show much progress. They've even risen very slightly in the latest figures just this morning - [ latest doctors strike influential ] laying bare the challenge for any incoming government.

 

smoKe and mirrors ...... WE ARE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

 

If we aren’t already then we soon will be

 

It’s all academic, they’re far too high and have been for years, long before the Pandemic, and far higher than when the Tories came to office. That’s the record they are trying to defend.

 

Privatisation works, but only if there is competition.
Without it - it’s a monopoly.
If I dont like Thames Water or GWR, where can I go for my water or train ride?
And the water companies have simply squandered all the shareholders money and have failed to invest.
Some people point at LJ/Ashton ‘selling the family silver’ for BCFC - Thatcher did that on a huge scale for the UK in the 1980s and we are now seeing the results of private companies bleeding our assets dry - and it will be down the the state once again to step in and fix it - we can’t have people drinking sewage contaminated water so ultimately it will be you and I who will pay for it to be cleansed - whilst the privatised water companies and their Tory voting shareholders pocket £billions.

 

I’m a #Conservative. Always have been. But this election I shall be voting #Reform. Why? Because they are the only party offering a Conservative agenda. They are not far right. They are just right. Love from #Bolivia. MEGA.

 

Go ahead, split the right vote, all the more seats for Labour.