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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Me too. I got 23% but I’ll give you a rounding error…..
     
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  2. Stroller

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    I just did the same and got '23% of people in the UK have invested in the stock market'. 'Own shares' and 'have owned shares' are two very different things. I've owned shares once, but only because the company I was working for operated a share option scheme. That's very different to being a speculative investor in a random company.

    Oh, and I made a tidy profit on them. I was happy to pay 40% on it.
     
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  3. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Interest on cash savings is nothing compared to the profits investing on the stock can bring. It's necessary to take a daily interest in the FTSE and beyond, and have reasonable commercial judgement. It can be fun.
     
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  4. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it is 23%. My error.
     
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  5. Goldhawk-Road

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    It can be read both ways, but the "had owned" refers back to shareholders in 2017, rather than historic ownership.
     
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  6. sb_73

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    Yeah, you can make a lot if you bet well. You can also lose a lot, including your capital. Depends on your personality. My Dad didn’t have a formal pension and was very good at investing for himself. It’s not for me, but that’s just personal choice and I have plenty of other things to keep me busy.

    I don’t believe that 23% of the British population are actively managing a share portfolio. I’ll try and research more some time.
     
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  7. Stroller

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    I don't understand that. Am I in your 25%?
     
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  8. kiwiqpr

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    No cgt here
    Talk of labour bringing in an envy tax when they next get in
    My shares are currently down about 23%
    Sold a load last year,<ale>:emoticon-0148-yes:<bubbly>
    ETFs are up
    Although I shouldn't be allowed to pick my own
    Would there be a refund from the taxman to cover my losses
     
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  9. Goldhawk-Road

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    Not if you don't currently invest in shares. If you back to the Googled page, there's the article by Finder.com where 23% came from. If you read it, you will see it breaks down current 2024 investments
     
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  10. Quite Possibly Raving

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    I'm assuming people who are small scale invest in tracker funds count as shareholders, which is the low(er) risk way to do it.
     
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  11. Stroller

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    Do you consider that your playing around with stocks and shares constitutes a significant contribution to the health of the economy?
     
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  12. Goldhawk-Road

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    If it's UK shares, it must do. I help to put the share price up, With a higher share price, the public company can borrow against value for investment. They can also fend off takeovers
     
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  13. Goldhawk-Road

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    YouGov poll puts Reform ahead of Tories for the first time
     
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  14. Star of David Bardsley

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    Shows the age of people here when people are saying Mordaunt over Rayner.
     
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  15. kiwiqpr

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    we know quality
    please log in to view this image

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  16. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    So a Tory vote lets in Starmer.

    Crack on lads.
     
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  17. Stroller

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    It must do.

    Mustn't it?
     
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  18. kiwiqpr

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    bloody beneficiaries

    For context, the total amount of new Benefit fraud, which arguably gets more attention from politicians, totalled $2.7 million in the last financial year. $2.7m compared to about a billion dollars in tax discrepancies.

    As for how much the government is being defrauded in total.

    A Serious Fraud Office report estimated fraud loss for the public sector in 2020 was between $601 million and $7.5 billion per year.


    If lost tax revenue was included, the total cost of fraud and associated errors to the public sector could reach $13 billion per year.
     
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  19. Didley Squat

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    And the winner is…

    IMG_0511.jpeg
     
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  20. Goldhawk-Road

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    if you doubt it, let’s hear your reasoning
     
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