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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    They are viewed differently because they are irrelevant. They don't participate in politics in any meaningful way, unless yelling at liberals on Bluesky to kill themselves counts (it doesn't). They pose no threat because their beliefs are as deep as the thread on the hammer-and-sickle patch sown to their backpack, but also serve no useful purpose in the body politic, and thus should be accorded no more attention than an eyeroll.
     
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    Stalin killed more people than Hitler because Stalin won. It isn’t remotely complicated or remotely about right or left. The dictator called Stalin beat the dictator called Hitler, giving him a lot more time to murder people who he saw as a threat. If Hitler had won he would have killed more people than Stalin - because Stalin would have been dead.

    Some of the points people try to make on here are just baffling.
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Hahahahaha you genuinely believe this don’t you?
     
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  5. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Not just Stalin.

    if you actually study history instead of getting your entire world view from left wing sources, the atrocities committed by left wing goverments globally far, far outweighs those of right wing governments. It’s really not even close. We are talking hundreds of millions of deaths and genocides all in the name of “the greater good”.
     
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  6. StJabbo1

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    Only a fool blinded by the alt right wouldn't. The facts are there stacked up in front of you showing the lying arsehole to be the misogynistic pussy grabbing convicted fraudster and felon with outstanding charges to be answered that he is. But no, you and the crackpot conspiraloons who don't know **** from sugar crack on regardless. Your posts are of comedic value only, not a shred of truth or a verifiable source to be seen.
     
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  7. Archers Road

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    Do you have any figures for this, and a source?
     
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  8. San Tejón

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    Farage putting it out there that he would lead a merged conservative/reform party, that is “centre right”. Not sure either party is close to being centre right tbh.

     
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  9. StJabbo1

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    You'll be lucky Archie. This apportioning of blame ignores the millions dispatched under the religious banner, but they all, along with the rest, had god on their side.
     
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    Go on then. Show your workings. Where is the tally chart? Factor into this, of course, that there really is no such thing as left wing before 1900 and that the barbarism of all human history before that must be declared right wing. Factor in genocides in Africa and Eastern Europe.

    Mao may give you a slight lead here, but these are not the crimes of the left or right, but of dictators. You also need to stop doing the ‘you would know better if you read a book’ act, too.
     
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  11. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Thanks? I think you said this was 'balanced', it really isn't. I think loading's response is very good
    This doesn't acknowledge the Tories pandering to populism (e.g. 'stop the boats') or their major part in encouraging Farage to come back

    However, we have needed a grown-up debate about managing immigration for a long time
    It should clearly benefit the country AND respond to legitimate human rights issues
    I think what the left have struggled to do is manage this balance and this is partly because of the media love of populist headlines (e.g. 'STOP THE BOATS!!!')

    It is now also incredibly difficult given the level of conflict and people who are becoming stateless
    This requires a pan-european discussion and acknowledgement that the numbers we deal with are far smaller than some other countries
    It should be noted that most refugees end up in neighbouring countries and that's never us
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Not sure political leanings play too much part in whether people commit genocide or not. Some people are just horrible ****s regardless of their leanings.

    Not like the Khmer Rouge would have been sound and not killed anyone if they'd been right wing rather than left.
     
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  13. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Come on Jabbo, say what you really mean, don't sit on the fence <laugh>
     
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  14. Osvaldorama

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    Not sure there’s any need for that.

    I think your opinions are ridiculous too, but I’m not rude to you
     
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    Yes you are rude to me and anyone else who has the temerity to disagree with and challenge your outlandish posts. You denigrate with your snide remarks along with attacks on intellectual capabilities whilst trumpeting your own.
     
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    But you are completely dismissive of other people's opinions and a lot of your replies are condescending. So really, you're not in a strong position to say "Not sure there’s any need for that".
     
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  17. StJabbo1

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    Yeah sorry about that I was pulling my punches a bit.
     
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  18. Osvaldorama

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    Yeah fair. Can’t expect low IQ people like Jabbo to have high IQ conversations. I understand
     
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    America - a right wing nation - has caused the deaths of over 3 million non-combatants since 9/11.
     
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  20. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    You’re pushing your luck now. I know you would jump up and down with glee if you were banned from this thread but that doesn’t mean it can’t happen if you insult people.
     
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