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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    devils advocate but we dont know anything for a fact. we don't know that Dodds staying etc is the reason they're falling thru. So you can't call people out making assumptions the other way
     
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  2. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    This. The "model" isnt the problem. Its Speakman. And because Speakman is allowed to continuously do this, its KLD.

    He needs to fix it
     
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  3. Carl and the Passions

    Carl and the Passions Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that’ll definitely solve it
     
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  4. Forpadydeplasterer

    Forpadydeplasterer Well-Known Member

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    So has Rosenior been told it isn't him?

    Then he has briefed the media, so it looks like he knocked us back.

    Or are the club just useless?

    There's going to be civil war soon <laugh><doh>
     
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  5. Hudson92

    Hudson92 Well-Known Member

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    Where do we go when cifuentes tells us to **** off?
     
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  6. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    I’m not calling anyone out.. just a genuine question.. don’t see the harm in that
     
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  7. sleepy

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    IF this is the case, there is no defending it. A manager should be able to bring his own tried and tested team. It's not like we are wanting to keep world beaters, they are mostly failures!
     
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  8. Grimes

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    Can only laugh at this now, they’ve made a pigs ear of the whole thing. They’ve had since February to prepare for this.
     
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  9. Billy Batts

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    Couldn't agree more. From the outside looking in sounds like Speakman is just given free reign to do whatever the **** he wants. KLD quite happy to sit back and let him get on with it. Absolute farce.
     
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  10. Eye Ball Paul

    Eye Ball Paul Well-Known Member

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    Welcome Dodds as Procter as No2 5 year deal <laugh>
     
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  11. FellTop

    FellTop Well-Known Member

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    Cheers mate.

    If we have got to a point where a coach like Rosenior, is deciding to walk away, then something has to be wrong. He isnt some old school manager. He understands how modern football structures can work. Unless he has been given the Burnley job (not an interview, the actual job) then alarm bells are ringing for me, louder than ever.
     
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  12. SAFC Wilks

    SAFC Wilks Well-Known Member

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    I’ve given Speakman time, but he’s starting to really grate on my tits like.

    He has to be removed. Do away with him and put his mate Dodds right back in the academy where he belongs. Assistant head coach my arse. The absolute weapon.
     
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  13. alcoauth

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    Cifentes has a contract with QPR so presumably we'd need to pay for him, which is just another impediment because QPR can play hardball.
     
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  14. Wheatsheaf

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    Our transfer policy is set..Mowbray got maybe 2 players he wanted *Dack the rest went through Harvey and Speakman. Its a serious issue for managers not to the final say on recruitment by the club holds you to account on results.
     
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  15. Gazj2k

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    We are just simply a shambles like. Over 115 days and we have been turned down by 3 managers because we are tantalising them with two people in Dodds and Proctor that Blyth Spartans would probably turn down if available.

    The sooner Kyril and Speakman do one the better as there is clearly no plan or strategy in place it will become another panic appointment and then they are sacked in 6 months time.

    Be amazed if this doesn't impact season ticket sales as we are being managed and ran by utter morons.
     
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  16. Daz

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    Almost 32000 fans have renewed and this is how the club are going about things, they don't deserve the fans.

    We will be in a relegation battle if we end up appointing Dodds, I don't think that will happen though. Is Big Sam available? :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Not sure tbh, i just know someone who was close to that deal and the club were pretty much giving him what he wanted

    Trying to find out how close jansen was
     
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  18. Billy Batts

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    We're going to end up with heckinbottom or lampard aren't we.
     
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  19. Hudson92

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    Be going down in a nice kit this time though


    Last moan I promise
     
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  20. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    If it is true … then to be turned down by 3 managers speaks volumes of how the owners expects the head coach to work within this system.. either that or we don’t pay enough
     
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