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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Been on the Kildare Ale
     
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  2. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    I was just pointing out how many players they had on loan from teams in the top divisions, I don’t think Twine actually featured much and got sent back.

    The youngest of those I’ve mentioned are 21 and have a few seasons under their belt at this level or higher. Tyler Morton has 2 full seasons in the championship, pretty much what Dan Neil has and people seem to claim he’s experienced now. Their “front 4” towards the end of the season was Tufan, Carvalho, Philogene and Omur/Delap. How many of our players get into that? I’d argue that even Clarke would struggle to start over Philogene before he picked up an injury.

    There’s no way anyone can say with a straight face that their squad had a load of average players last season if you genuinely think we have abundances of talent in ours.
     
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  3. Nig

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    Me granda from shields was 6'4" and hard as nails but a lovely, quiet, placid bloke. Me Da was 6'2" and still wanted to knock fookers out into his 70's with emphysema FFS :rolleyes: <laugh><laugh>
     
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  4. Mackem 10.1

    Mackem 10.1 Well-Known Member

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    Because some just seem to want to whinge, even though we haven't got a clue who we are going to appt. At least wait to see who we get then whinge if you disagree with the appt
     
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  5. Nig

    Nig Well-Known Member

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>

    Shhvffggg uuuyb jjggff :emoticon-0148-yes: <laugh>
     
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  6. TheBronzeBummer

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    That team bucks the league by 10 points.
     
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  7. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Twine was that ****e he had 7 goal contributions in 20 starts by the way. Think Bellingham had that all season playing pretty much every game and we rave about him. Tufan is a full international with champions league experience and played as a CM most of his career at Fenerbahce of course he doesn’t have loads of goals, moved up to the 10 role and he scored more goals last season than anyone in our squad bar Clarke.

    Seri, Tufan, Carvalho, Greaves, Philogene walk into our squad absolutely no doubt about it.
     
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  8. TheBronzeBummer

    TheBronzeBummer Well-Known Member

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    Ozan Tufan was never a forward mind, used to play centre mid.

    People just rewriting things for their narratives, Rosenior underachieved with the squad he had in the end...if he had that squad at the beginning im sure he would've got top 6, but it's all ifs buts and maybes.

    He might be a good manager or he might be limited, I don't know!
    What I do know is he'd be underwhelming in the grand scheme of things, even if he ended up being brilliant.

    Like Mowbray, underwhelming, but what he achieved, to me, was breathtaking, it rekindled my love of football.
     
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  9. Pure River Slut

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    Some quality highlighted here. Do you think that team could stay up in the prem ? (At risk of going off track)
     
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    Ideally want someone in in the next couple of days. Transfer window opens on Friday. Would be good for the new coach to come in and be part of transfer plans with Speakman/Harvey prior to the window actually opening.
     
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  11. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Pretty much spot on to what I had in my head but i think but I’d have Seri and Neil in the midfield with Tufan as the F9. Think Seri just oozes class that we lack.
     
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    Ranieri and Kante and it wins the ****er
     
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    Only people that are clueless about football .
     
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  14. FellTop

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    January incomings were big at Hull. They were doing well and the owner went for it. If only it were so easy to bring players in mid season. It was like the owner was playing championship manager there.
     
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  15. Pure River Slut

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    Or moan about the heat on a sunny day
     
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    People got wowed in Jan at their signings. They really were never at the level of the 3 relegated sides. Ipswich were loads better. That leaves folk demanding they finish above Norwich or West Brom. Far from clean cut.
     
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  17. Pure River Slut

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    Talented players thrown together don’t always make the right ingredients… or get on
     
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  18. FellTop

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    Which is why we finished 16th, along with some awful decision making re head coaches.
     
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  19. Scout73

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    Nah i dont think it would, the step up is massive. Patterson isnt near PL standard, the defence is lacking pace (ballard n greaves are PL standard imo but not as a combo), fullbacks are good enough for PL (cirkin def could be if he stays fit). CM lacks experience, to @WorkyTicketFTM point if it was a PL game id have seri in there for his experience.

    I do like the 3 in behind the strikers tho, thats the real quality but tufan n delap aint scoring enough goals to keep that team up
     
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  20. Pure River Slut

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    I thought the two full backs were the weak links instantly and the striker.
     
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