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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Monkey69

    Monkey69 Well-Known Member

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    You are right there has been no evidence, but to be fair there has been no evidence of anything else suggested in your post. We as fans know little to nothing about the recruitment process or what has happened, but you are trying to conjour up a negative narrative based around evidence you don't have and then pointing out that there is no evidence ?? Bit confusing that don't you think.
     
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  2. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    It’s Nixon day. What clickbait will he serve up today and what % will be true
     
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  3. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    Loads
    5% of his scattergun guesses
     
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  4. Billy Batts

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    If it is Jansen. Still clinging to the hope of Zenden coming in as his assistant. Would love that!
     
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  5. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Can't say I'd be particularly pleased with that Would show the club's not quite as forward thinking as it has tried to suggest. Want someone effective hired on merit.
     
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  6. Billy Batts

    Billy Batts Well-Known Member

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    I get that mate. He has been assistant manager before mind.
     
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  7. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't seem to have done particularly well at it. One year in a big job. Two years in a youth job. Forgotten for a decade.

    I just don't feel like those sentimental hires ever work out for us. Better to get someone who has something tangible to offer and leave the sentiment for ambassador roles.
     
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  8. Billy Batts

    Billy Batts Well-Known Member

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    That's fair.
     
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  9. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Did ****ing love the guy mind.
     
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  10. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    Ha’way the Jansen.
     
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  11. Neil

    Neil Well-Known Member

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    Same. I loved the dad dancing moves particularly.
     
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  12. Grizzled Wanderer

    Grizzled Wanderer Well-Known Member

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    It's based on what is available in the public domain. Still has been more heavily linked then all the other candidates put together since December. You have to work really hard not to see that he was our first choice. The length of time that's passed since it became clear he wasn't coming strongly suggests we had to start all over again - and other clubs take two or three weeks to get a new man sorted.

    What we see dictates the narrative. Does the timeline suggest that we had a candidates list ready to go to immediately? No.
     
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  13. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Will Still having not been appointed at Lens yet is pretty surprising to me.

    Sounds like their fire sale is starting with Monaco in for El Ayaoui at 15-20m.

    Five sales like that and they will be in the black. Ouch.
     
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  14. BellionGoalVersusVilla

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    He’s been part of the 1st coaching team at PSV for years now
     
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  15. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Confused. Just had a look at their website and they have about 15 staff listed as coaches/physios/analysts under the first team but he isn't one. Isn't under the U21's or academy either.

    But if you search Bolo Zenden PSV Coach he seems to have some sort of profile in the website cache. Can't really get my head around it.

    If he's a good coach, of course he would be a welcome addition. Just wouldn't want someone for the fact that they played for us.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    Crack of dawn and you're straight back on here attacking the club, arguing with decent posters in your usual condescending way and trotting out your favourite little phrases, not just individual words, that make you believe you're more intelligent and perceptive than everyone else. As Exile and, since your ban, as Grizzle you're relentlessly boring, tedious and sidetracking threads to hammer away repeating the same old tripe ... people keep telling you that.

    You can pretend you're not Exile all you like ... you can run but you're just not clever enough to hide.

    'Vague comments from the head coach that can be taken as throwing players and coaches under the bus don't calm things down. That's just fuelling the 'bluffer' narrative.'
    The Exile II, Jan 22nd, 2024

    'One side wants the narrative to be 'dafties fell for Johnson and Farage's bullshit' when that's simply not true.'
    The Exile II, Feb 16th, 2023

    'I see the usual 'club is never wrong' narrative is winding up so I think that's as much as I'll contribute.'
    The Exile II, Feb 6th, 2024
     
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  17. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    A good coach and played for us and got the place would be great. Is there anyone would fit that description? Catts, not enough experience? same with Leadbitter
     
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  18. Ozzymac

    Ozzymac Well-Known Member

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    For ****s sake.

    Fact 1: The club said that Dodds would continue in the role for the remainder of the season when Beale was sacked.
    Fact 2: Still was employed by Reims when Beale was sacked

    They are the only facts in the public domain.

    Everything else is rumour, speculation and guesswork.

    Whilst i persona;;y feel that Still was KLD's first choice it's only my belief, not a fact.
     
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  19. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Jansen getting the job (which I'd be happy with) would indicate that we were waiting for Still. If we weren't, we could have appointed Jansen in February. He was available after leaving AZ in January. We'd have heard about an approach.
     
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  20. Prehab26

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    Bit of a frosty start to this fine Sunday gents
     
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