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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, May 22, 2024.

  1. alcoauth

    alcoauth Well-Known Member

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    Looks like milk shaking is back, hopefully we see ALOT MORE of it in the coming months, every ccuunntt can get it.
     
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  2. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Milkshake hoses on every corner if I was PM.
     
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  3. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Christ this debate is dull and we've only done the introductions.
     
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  4. Gordon Armstrong

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  5. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Electric shock through the floor whenever the candidate talks about what the opposition would do rather than what they would do.

    *Lights dim across the country*
     
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  6. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Fire up the emergency coal plants.
     
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  7. alcoauth

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    How petty and pathetic, is this really the best our country has to offer? Not a modicum of intellectualism.
     
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  8. Iain

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    Labour should have the election in the bag, is Starmer trying to actually lose. He's never answered a single question.
    I couldn't vote for the tories due to the mess we are in, but listening to Starmer the bloke is embarrassing. Don't think I'll bother wasting my time making the trip to the polling station.
    I don't think they'll have a box for **** knows for me to tick
     
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  9. Pure River Slut

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    I won’t watch them. The whole format is cringeworthy - head to head when there are others. It just makes them look like kids rowing about top trumps.
     
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  10. Juan4754

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    Im probably not going to vote for any party but your right that Sunak walked that debate, Starmer just had no ideas to come out with
     
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  11. Pure River Slut

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    I didn’t watch it mate
     
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  12. alcoauth

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    Weird because I thought the opposite, Sunak haranguing about taxes and shoehorning it in whenever he could, Starmer was unimpressive but Sunak worse, the worst part was the plea at the end, Sunak sounded like he was doing an advert, the whole thing is gross.
     
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  13. Iain

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    I've got no time for Sunak or the tories but Starmer was a **** show, all he could answer was you've been **** for 14 years.
    He was asked on many occasions what his solution was to a number of issues, he has never yet answered it.
    Sunak in fairness gave his solutions to the issues, all though I thought most of his solutions were pretty **** at least he had one.
    Starmer had nothing, the **** show the tories have put us through, Labour should be wiping the floor with them
     
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  14. Blond Bombshell

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    That's twice you have said all this. You are coming across desperate
     
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  15. Iain

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    Not desperate, yes I've said before we need the tories out, however Starmer has not convinced me he's the answer either.
    You strongly disagreed agreed with this.
    So I genuinely asked your advice what were Labour's policies that made you so convinced they could turn the country around.
    Your reply was sarcastic and made no attempt to answer the question, so I watched the debate last night to see if that was any more beneficial. Starmers answers were a bit like yours a waste of time.
     
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  16. Prehab26

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    For me it was ok. The chair was poor and let Sunack talk over the top of everyone. Constantly. I think it's a disgrace that we have a PM who behaves like he did last night. Repeating nonsense about tax rises that are not true and misleading.

    If you call Rewanda and leaving European human rights protections brave, that's up to you. I call them idiotic.

    Starmer was more withdrawn I agree but he had some professional decorum and you could see he wanted to debate with an adult.

    Policy wise, he was clear on British energy. Clear on NHS backlog, clear on education with teacher appointments and funding. Clear on no military service.

    If people listened instead of hearing the little spoilt brat opposite, shouting 2k tax rises all night (already been fact checked) then it would help.
     
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  17. Neil

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    What I dislike about these sort of debates is the way they (particularly Starmer in this case) dance around trying not to say certain things, rather than just coming out and saying the truth. They're so scared of saying something that could be construed as negative, that they don't get the positive message across. He should be making minced meat out of Sunak given the state the Tories are in, yet it seemed to me that neither of them said anything convincing.
     
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  18. Disco down under

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    Disagree.

    Voting for one of the parties that don't have your best interests at heart isn't what gives you a right to complain about them not having your best interests at heart.

    If people started boycotting (forget the Geordie spelling) the vote en masse, momentum might actually gather to fix what is now an outdated and not fit for purpose political system.

    Participating just feeds the machine and keeps it relevant.

    All opinion of course, I'm sure people would fundamentally disagree with me.

    But positive change will only come from outside the system. It won't come from the people the corruption is feeding.
     
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  19. Prehab26

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    Not sure that's possible when they are unsure on the state of what they are walking into. There has to be some level of caution and coated manifesto plans. Otherwise it's just promises without foundation. Much like the Tories and Sunak pledges 18 month ago.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    This is how Sunak appeared to me last night ....


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