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  1. tiptoe through the kempton

    tiptoe through the kempton Well-Known Member

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    Well said Dennis.
    I really hope your grandson is now doing well. I too have a grandson with Autism. It’s bloody hard and you have to fight to get whatever help you can.
    Personally I don’t believe there are more autistic children now, just a better understanding and diagnosis.
     
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  2. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    Growing up in Hull in the 70s I knew a fair number of kids who were ASD, I knew others who had a variety of mental health issues, and yet more who had significant learning difficulties.

    Of course, a lot of these were not understood, undiagnosed or left untreated and this resulted in those kids life chances being severely diminished.

    Much better now that society has a more enlightened approach to these people.


    Not perfect though, we could do so much better.
     
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  3. tiptoe through the kempton

    tiptoe through the kempton Well-Known Member

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    Well said Ernie.
     
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  4. MingofHarlem78

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    You can be passionate without being personal…

    MoH
     
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  5. Ron Burguvdy

    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

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    Once upon a time we 'locked up' people who were different from us, as time goes on we forget the De La Pole, Winestead, Brandsburton and Broadgates 'Hospitals' ( & many others) when parents were told to abandon there children at or shortly after birth and 'get on with there lives and forget them'. People were sterilised for their own good under a guise of compassion (social eugenics), 'luckily' this no longer happens and these people are part of our communities and more visible, so we see more people who are different to others.
    Labels = diagnosis, treatment or at least understanding why.
    My Gran when I was young said in her day 'nobody died of cancer' - though when I asked what they died of it's sounded a lot like cancer, we just didn't have that 'label' (which now saves many lives)
    Food yes it would be better if we all ate food with less additives etc, but conversely people are living longer
    Vaccinations there have been some debunked theories about these causing 'X&Y' and many of us are alive and live longer because of them
    Though we know they are imperfect and driven by profit, the opposite though is less illnesses and death in many parts of society.
    Are some parents (for whatever reason) part of of the cause - possibly, though this is a convenient media amplicationn from other causes. A few bad apples don't equal a whole bad crop
     
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  6. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    Off an a tangent which is good, the chemicals farmers use is constantly monitored and if any are subsequently found to be harmful they end up getting banned. DDT and Paraquat for example. Interestingly as we strive to be nice to the environment and wildlife we are producing less of our own food and importing more from countries where use of chemicals may not be regulated in the same way as here. Then we get to the biggy, the **** you say we fertillize it with could well be literally ****. Because the water companies don't have enough treatment facilities quite often in our rainy season the over flow gets onto the land, worse than that the water companies can and do take tanker loads of polluted waste and spread it on agricultural land.
     
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  7. MingofHarlem78

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    Agree! That was exactly my point. I did not reference ARFID in my original post, instead I expressed a broader opinion on the modern development of ‘label hunting’ by parents to absolve themselves of any responsibility for the challenging behaviour of their child/children at school, home or any social setting.

    MoH
     
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  8. originalminority

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    Statements for Special Educational Needs weren't even introduced until 1981, neurodivergent children existed before this of course and were routinely ridiculed and bullied by teachers and fellow pupils and called all manner of names, it's shocking now but was the norm during my school days.
     
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  9. springtiger

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    Sorry but the more upsetting cases referenced on here the exceptions which deservedly require compassion and empathy . It’s the majority that don’t that SR etc are also referring to , my father got put it in or asked to go in Broadgates a number of times when I was a child it may have shaped me to cope with life’s tough times amongst other circumstances and just get on with it , but again some on here dismiss that as if it’s a ‘flaw’ , as my wife says everybody is different but strength of character can be encouraged .
     
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    Banned and then reapproved as is the case with neonicotinoid pesticide which is a particular danger to the very things Bees that polinate our crops.

    https://www.bumblebeeconservation.o...ee-harming-pesticide-for-fourth-year-running/

    Read something in the Times the other day theres being a 30% decline in earthworms, this and the polinater lose doesn't bode well for future food production.

    https://resoilfoundation.org/en/environment/invertebrates-uk-earthworms/
     
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  11. tiptoe through the kempton

    tiptoe through the kempton Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.
     
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  12. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Cheers
    He is speaking very well now, and proving the schools view that his reading age is consistent with all children his age (quite how the school knew that when he was completely non verbal is quite impressive tbh)
    He still has lots of other challenges and medical issues, some which are well managed, some less so, but he’s very happy and is a joy to be with despite the fact that you need to change your expectations of what is ‘normal’ behaviour, which doesn’t mean ignoring clearly naughty behaviour by the way…it just means I don’t sweat about whether he would prefer to eat watching a screen, which very much regulates his neurological need for stimulation, as opposed to simply not eating at all.

    Hope your grandson is doing well too
     
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  13. steverico

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    Yeah don’t be a twat eh
     
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  14. Paul Jewitt

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    As someone who used to work for Yorkshire Water, at many large sewage treatment plants the 'cake' (the solidish matter left over after treatment) is mixed with straw and left on drying pads to ferment into compost. This was then collected by farmers to grow the food we eat. Hull STW used to dry the cake and make it into pellets for farmers to spread on the fields
     
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  15. Carmine Galante.

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    That’s nice to know.
     
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  16. steverico

    steverico Well-Known Member

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    It’s not really science to put a link between the diets young people have now and the numerous new labels that kids get, little kids obese, kids being ultra violent towards adults, video games? Kids with eating disorders, again the internet doesn’t help.
    We used to have special schools with specialist teachers, losing them hasn’t helped.
     
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  17. TwoWrights

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    Let them eat cake. :emoticon-0125-mmm:



    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  18. steverico

    steverico Well-Known Member

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    Where did you live cos i don’t recall any kids like that, yes there were bad lads who went to the White House, but there were no kids like that at Wilberforce
     
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    Maybe children were better at masking it from fear of bullies?
     
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  20. dennisboothstash

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    50’s and 60’s they weren’t in any schools…
     
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