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Off Topic Electric/ Hybrid Cars

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Oct 29, 2022.

  1. Cityzen

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    How many times you must have heard that as you pass by…
     
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    Probably because RocketStar are developing engines for spaceships rather than cars.
     
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    My ellipsis was the open door. :emoticon-0125-mmm:


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  4. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    it’s smaller than the engine in both my cars lol
     
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    Road tax on Ev’s to go up to £190 a year from April 2025. If the vehicle costs £40,000 or more it’s going to be £ 600 a year. Don’t know if the same criteria applies re: petrol and diesel where if you buy one for say £30,000 but the list price from new was £ 40,000 or more, the road tax is £600 a year for the first 5 years. I imagine it will be.
     
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    Nuclear fusion as a source of power is certainly possible, but the problem to date has been that it takes more power to achieve the fusion than is generated by the fusion. I think recent experiments have just about got over that threshold for very short bursts, but we are still a long long time from achieving something the size of a generating plant. The idea that we might be anywhere near achieving a working fusion engine sounds like a lot of pie very high up in the sky.
     
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  7. Heimdallr

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    My guess would be that the manufacturers, and governments promoting them, are so far down the line now with EV technology and development, that there's no going back now - i think most major manufacturers are balls deep with EV now, that whether better or not, they're here to stay - hydrogen engines just dont have the same level of investment or anywhere near the ease of infrastructure, and no one will be buying nuclear engines in the next 50 years.

    I've been driving a Byd Seal this week from my works car pool.. no issues and nicer interior than the Tesla.
     
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    Even if and when we develop fusion to be a usable energy source (rather than a hydrogen bomb), the energy released is mostly soft x-rays, gamma rays and fast neutrons. Good luck with utilising that in a car without fatally irradiating the driver and passengers.
     
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    evs are going to require more copper to be mined than has even been mined in history according to a study i heard on the radio this week. that for the cars and infrastructure. evs are a dead end though. the world doesn't have the resources and most people don't have the money to buy them and nothing in a dead ev is recyclable.
     
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    They’re getting taxed under the same system as every other car, combustion engines will always be taxed higher though as the first year tax rate is based on CO2 emissions. Cars with big thirsty engines like a Land Rover discovery will pay something around £1500-2000 road tax in the first year, an electric car will pay £10.
     
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    Where do you get your information from, x?
     
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    i think it was on the radio. here's an article about the copper requirements. haven't chased it all the way to the source.
     
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    Particular rocky minerals might seam to be the most likely source? :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  14. Heimdallr

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    I'm fairly certain most of all cars, electric and normal, are recycled once they've reached the end of their life - Tesla recycles batteries, there's a small percentage of them that can't be, but the aluminium and steel structure, plus the plastic interior, is all recyclable.

    Sure, the copper requirement is large. But once it's mined and processed, it can be recycled and re-used. With fossil fuels, this obviously doesn't - once they're gone, it's several hundred thousand years until they're back.
     
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    There are some claims there that don't reflect reality in the way you imply, but ignoring that, the better solution would be to not produce the item that generates the waste and energy use in the first place.

    This is one of the many flaws in the arguments that I referred to earlier. What thinking there is starts in the wrong places, largely because they don't have a clear idea or understanding of the issues behind the question that they claim to be trying to answer.
     
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    I know you're pissed off at the delayed delivery of your Maeving RM1S, Dutch ;) but you'll be a convert once it arrives.
     
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    Some Japanese manufacturers don't seem very convinced by EVs , they still seem to be developing hydrogen engines
     
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    The major Japanese companies have announced they are pulling out of the EV market.
     
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    They can't pull out of it, they'd not be able to sell any cars into Europe in a few years time, but they're not investing in it as heavily as most countries.
     
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  20. Heimdallr

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    I haven't seen that announcement. I saw that Toyota are focusing on hybrids at the moment.
     
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