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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Because the system is wrong. He has too much power and too much arrogance but not enough experience at the level he is overseeing.. The system you’re supporting has allowed that and it has to change. No coach European or otherwise is just going to get what they’re given. They want a say in who they’ll be judged on.
     
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  2. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    He is posting there, under his regular login. He's posting here as a wum.
     
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  3. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

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    The system is not wrong and is in place in many clubs, many a lot more successful than here, because it works. Including where I work and have worked.

    The last two sentences are just flat out incorrect, especially in Germany.
     
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  4. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    But it's not an unusual system. In fact, it's the norm in a lot of places. Speakman might not be a great DoF but the system is sound.
     
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  5. Wackyjacky

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    Fair enough, don't know how people can be arsed.
     
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  6. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    I think where our implementation of the system falls down, is that it seems here that we aren’t picking players which suit a particular style of play. We seem to be just picking players based off future sell on values.

    When Speakman joined he had some really good schpiel about having models for each position. But we just haven’t stuck to that at all. Hume and Pembele are very different right back. Hemir and Rusyn very different strikers.

    Where the models work well, is where the Technical Director recruits players which suit a particular style, and the head coach plays that style as well. I feel like we don’t have anywhere near that joined up thinking.
     
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  7. Culinary

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    All come from the same people that have said there's a £20m loan secured over the clubs assets (no charges registered at Co's House), Willock has signed for us on a free (he's in talks over a new contract with QPR), that Maric was done (he's not) and that Still is done (remains to be seen). It's a big feed back loop at the minute..
     
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  8. The Norton Cat

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    Yeah, I think there's definitely an element of that. Your last para is basically how the system should work.
     
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  9. Johno808

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    becoming boing all this now, KS has shown regardless of who comes in he is not fit for purpose and needs to go

    Done some good stuff but the negatives have been huge ones…see beale…see a striker….see this debacle
     
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  10. SourPatch2

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    I'm just going off quotes from the man himself, publicly thanked the recruitment team for 'finding' Alvarez and Rodri.

    If the directors and head coach are in lock step then it's pretty easy to find players who fit the play style because it's more than likely that the overall play style has been set by the director and they've recruited a coach to implement it.

    The problem at our club is we don't have a set playing style and the incoming transfers show that. We have a lot of what I would say are flair and possession based players while we appointed Beale and then Dodds who attempted to implement a defensive approach.
     
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  11. Roppa

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    I think £9m a year buys him all the power and arrogance he wants tbh m8. He owns us and keeps us afloat, and for that he quite frankly can do whatever the **** he likes, it’s his business.
     
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    Just posted similar. The club doesn't have a playing identity and that's on Speakman.
     
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    I didn’t say they wouldn’t, I’d suggest that conversation works have happened early doors
     
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  14. Disco down under

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    Have to say, as a defender of Speakman against outlandish claims, this is absolutely bang on.

    Feels like we move from short term action to short term action at times. Clearly we have a long term plan with signing up and coming lads but the overall footballing output seems to move on the breeze.
     
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  15. Robertson

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    One thing that I could never understand is why we couldn’t sign a young talent or two for the CDM role. I suppose Michut was one but he didn’t stay. It’s a pretty important position to have overlooked. Apologies, I digress.
     
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  16. John 11:35

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    Agreed

    THE SCOUT is lurking within tent
     
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  17. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    If a system allows one person to get things wrong repeatedly there’s something wrong with it
     
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  18. The Norton Cat

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    Right, so the system has one part that isn't working. Doesn't mean the system is wrong.
     
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  19. Pure River Slut

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    And as customer I can say what I want and do what I want and if they don’t cameos they’ll lose a lot more custom and income. It’s weak.
     
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  20. Pure River Slut

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    Things need safeguards. When the safeguard is the problem it needs to change.
     
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