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    The middle of last August was a pressure point for Leeds United, and a time when the club’s season seemed in most danger of spinning out of control.

    Willy Gnonto, their Italian winger, had been ostracised after asking to leave. A legal dispute involving Luis Sinisterra left a second of their more valuable attacking assets to train in isolation. Others in the building were agitating to get out and incoming transfer business was incomplete. In numerous respects, Leeds were a classic of the genre of a side picking up the pieces after Premier League relegation.

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    Around that time, one of their players went to Daniel Farke to discuss the manager’s selection policy and gripe about who had been playing where in the early weeks of the Championship term. Farke listened and then spoke his mind. I’ve got people on strike, he said. I’ve got people who want to be elsewhere. I’ve got a half-baked squad and the window closes soon. But if you’re not happy and you want to leave, it’s no problem for me to sell you tomorrow. Just say the word.

    That was that, and the conversation behind closed doors would be a marker for how Leeds would operate on Farke’s watch. The promotion he envisaged, the promotion he had all but promised in private, was not going to be won by committee. The club would revolve around him: his calls, his rules, his prerogative to have the final say on anything affecting the dressing room. In that way, promotion would live or die.

    Leeds went with it, investing themselves fully in Farke and trusting his confidence. For many months, their faith promised to pay off. But a costly wobble at the season’s business end manifested itself in a play-off final defeat to Southampton today, a feeling the club know so well.

    In their mind’s eye, Leeds knew how they wanted this afternoon to look: the scenes of euphoria theirs to soak up, rather than Southampton’s. Instead, after a 1-0 loss, Archie Gray was in tears. Ilia Gruev was in tears. Farke’s players wondered around in a daze with no idea of where to put themselves. And old truism at Elland Road was proven again. Leeds, plainly, cannot hack the play-offs.

    Another summer of reflection awaits ahead of another year in the wilderness.

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    A crestfallen Joe Rodon following Sunday’s play-off final defeat to Southampton (Mike Hewitt/Getty Images)
    Farke’s insistence on having autonomy at Elland Road can be traced back to the earliest conversations he had with Leeds when the club were trying to decide which manager would work best for them in the Championship.

    Of all the candidates spoken to, Farke exuded the most self-confidence. Leeds’ interview panel was fully stacked, including new chairman Paraag Marathe and Jed York, one of the most senior figures behind the San Francisco 49ers NFL franchise and a major Leeds shareholder, but Farke chose not to wow them with a long presentation about tactics, vision or philosophy. In his opinion, which he expressed openly, two prior Championship titles won with Norwich City were proof of his suitability.

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    Farke celebrates winning the Championship in 2019 with Norwich (James Baylis – AMA/Getty Images)
    Last month, when Farke said in a press conference those two titles were “no guarantee” he would take Leeds up, a staff member with knowledge of the summer’s interview process — who, like others who spoke to The Athleticfor this article, asked not to be named to avoid damaging relationships — chuckled at the comment. A guarantee of promotion was more or less what Farke had given the panel in June, but what he did not realise was that Leeds were about to head into an unprecedented Championship year, a season which generated one of the tightest races for automatic promotion on record.

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    Farke, understandably, portrayed himself as a Championship specialist, though he spent more time talking about wanting to prove himself in the Premier League. Leeds, after 12 torrid months and the loss of their place in the top flight, were seduced by the thought of stable, dependable presence in the dug-out. Last season, Jesse Marsch had fallen victim to the flaws of his counter-pressing ideals. He was clinging on long before he was sacked in February 2023. A short stint as Marsch’s replacement broke Spaniard Javi Gracia, to the extent that the Spaniard was virtually in tears after a 4-1 beating at Bournemouth and struggled to bring himself to talk to the squad. Leeds sacked him the following day.

    Sam Allardyce, a veteran of English club football, saw the club through their final four matchesbut the die was cast and Leeds were cooked. One source explained how after a 3-1 defeat to West Ham United in their penultimate game, Allardyce “went into the dressing room and pretty much said, ‘Well done lads, you’ve ****ed it.'” He wasn’t wrong. Tottenham Hotspur at home was all Leeds had left, and Allardyce could tell that no miracle was coming. Three years in the Premier League ended with Rasmus Kristensen marking ghosts as Spurs sealed a 4-1 win in injury-time.

    Within a fortnight of relegation, a deal was finalised for long-time chairman Andrea Radrizzani to sell Leeds to the 49ers Enterprises investment fund, of which Marathe was the front man. Though a 100 per cent takeover would not be formally completed until September, EFL approval for it arrived on July 17.



    By then, the 49ers were already running Leeds, with Radrizzani out of the picture and involved in a buy-out of Sampdoria in Italy. A boardroom in which Radrizzani and 49ers Enterprises had been increasingly at odds was now the domain of one single shareholder — and free from divisions.

    The 49ers are regarded as inherently strategic in the way they run their NFL operation. They see long-term planning as a virtue and invest heavily in data, both financially and operationally. With Radrizzani gone from Elland Road, their ideas and methods were free to be applied to Leeds with more vigour than in their days as a minority stakeholder.

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    The Sportsology Group, an analytics firm for whom Chelsea’s former director of football operations Mike Forde is CEO, did some groundwork on the managerial hunt. It was Forde who had first recommended Leeds to Marathe as an investment opportunity back in 2018. One of the individuals in the 49ers’ investment group, ex-baseballer Michael Schwimer, was the founder of Big League Advantage, a U..S company which specialises in sports data and predictive analysis.

    The 49ers teed up Robbie Evans, a man who had worked for them previously, to come into Elland Road as chief strategy officer, with a focus on the club’s playing side and the use of data. Sources have told The Athletic that recruitment will be ‘Moneyball’ orientated to an extent, with the aim of ensuring that analysis combined with the club’s budget finds better value for money.

    In picking a new manager, however, there was only so much time the 49ers could devote to playing the field. Negotiating EFL approval for their takeover and dealing with Radrizzani took up the first seven weeks of the summer. Farke was not appointed until July 4, a matter of hours before Leeds’ first pre-season training session. United would not complete their first signing, midfielder Ethan Ampadu, for another 15 days.

    The 49ers respected Farke’s record. They accepted the need to be efficient in making an appointment. Ideally, they would have preferred to appoint someone to the technical director’s role, partially replacing Victor Orta in a revised structure, before choosing a first-team boss but time was too short, and Gretar Steinsson stepped into that job after Farke’s arrival.

    One of Steinsson’s rivals for the technical director position thought Leeds had made a mistake by not going after Steve Cooper as head coach. Cooper was under contract at Nottingham Forest but seemed forever on the verge of being sacked. Making that happen, though, would have taken patience and compensation, neither of which Leeds could afford in spades. United made attempts to court Graham Potter, fresh from his dismissal by Chelsea, but failed to convince him to engage seriously with them.

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    With the decision to appoint Farke made, pragmatism was applied in equal measure to the club’s recruitment of new players. In the Premier League, Leeds had taken too many risks. Some, like Brazilian wizard Raphinha, proved exceptionally good business. Others, like many of the purchases made for Marsch, did not. Leeds have not commented on the news last month that they had withdrawn their appeal over an award of £24.5million in compensation to Jean-Kevin Augustin, a consequence of their shambolic move to sign the striker in 2020, but it might be that accepting defeat in that case — one they seemed destined to lose — was indicative of the 49ers trying to cut the nonsense and face facts.

    In the transfer market, Leeds went safe, solid and fairly heavy: Ampadu for £7million ($8.8m) from Chelsea, Joel Piroe from Swansea City for £10.5million, Glen Kamara from Rangers for £5million, Joe Rodon on loan from Tottenham Hotspur. Farke insisted on approving all of their business — which was why he had specifically asked for the more old-fashioned title of manager, rather than head coach. He looked to his old club Norwich with bids for Max Aarons and Kenny McLean, neither of which came off. He took Sam Byram on a free transfer following the defender’s release from Carrow Road, a transfer Leeds might have opposed had Farke not been on the scene. As Byram admitted himself, his injury record was a big red flag.

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    Piroe cost £10.5million (Ben Roberts Photo/Getty Images)
    Farke imposed himself in other ways too, none of them hugely unconventional and all done for a reason. The canteen at Leeds’ Thorp Arch training ground was marked out as an area for players and backroom staff only. Even club directors weren’t allowed to wander in as they pleased. Changes were made to the arrangements for the squad to sign charity merchandise, to avoid distractions around training. Everyone was expected to sit down together before pre-match meals began. Farke also tried to manage the PR in certain instances. Revealing in advance that first-choice centre-back Pascal Struijk would miss Leeds’ home game against Plymouth Argyle in November because of a hernia operation was done deliberately to stop his absence from the teamsheet affecting the atmosphere at kick-off.

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    He would insist at short notice on flying to Millwall away, even though trains had already been booked. He would be adamant that getting through a crazy spell of travelling in February — Swansea City away, Bristol City away and Plymouth away twice in the space of 15 days — would require planes and additional hotel stays. Leeds had the budget to grant those requests and were repaid with four away wins. Up until the end of March, when they hit the top of the table for the first time, his team seemed to be peaking perfectly.

    People who have watched the 49ers operate since they took control of Leeds say much the same thing: that they are hands-on and attentive but not inclined to interfere unduly. To quote an individual who saw the Ampadu signing play out: “They knew what they knew about football, and they were sensible enough to know that they knew very little. Because of that, they put the right football people in place.” Nick Hammond, hired as a transfer consultant, was a key figure in the summer rebuild: well connected, a good communicator and difficult to ruffle. But nothing went over the line without crossing Farke’s desk first.

    Farke’s style of man-management can be strict and, on occasions, stubborn but he is not prone to reading the riot act regularly. One of his assistants, head of performance Chris Domogalla, is said to play bad cop from time to time, though Leeds’ performances and results did not call for much of that. The attention to detail was not on the level of Marcelo Bielsa’s, but Farke’s tactics delivered points regularly. As one source said: “He tells you what he wants and if you’re doing what he wants, he’s not going to hassle you.”

    At certain junctures, however, he showed the capacity to be ruthless. It was Farke’s decision to ban Gnonto from first-team training after the Italian made it clear he wanted Leeds to accept bids for him from Everton. It was Farke’s decision to isolate Sinisterra while the Colombian tried to demonstrate to Leeds his contract legally entitled him to leave Elland Road on loan (Sinisterra would later join Bournemouth on deadline day). In January, Charlie Cresswell’s dissatisfaction at being Farke’s fourth-choice central defender manifested itself in him being temporarily omitted from match-day squads. Farke picked his fights carefully but picked them all the same.

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    Sinisterra was sold to Bournemouth (Robbie Jay Barratt – AMA/Getty Images)
    His control over squad-building extended to the proposed renewals of player contracts. At the outset of this season, veteran campaigners Liam Cooper and Luke Ayling were under the impression, on the strength of conversations with Leeds’ hierarchy, that they were both likely to receive an extra year at the end of deals which expire this summer. As time went on, Farke took a different view and saw less value in keeping them on board. Ayling left on loan for Middlesbrough in January. Cooper will almost certainly leave Elland Road as a free agent in the weeks ahead (although the defender appreciated the opportunity of a farewell appearance in Leeds’ play-off semi-final against Norwich City, and messaged Farke personally to thank him).

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    Under Farke, other players thrived in a big way. Daniel James, a £25million signing in 2021, recovered from several years of rudderless progress with 13 goals and seven assists. Crysencio Summerville’s influence exploded so spectacularly that he was named Championship player of the year last month. Georginio Rutter — very much the wrong signing for £30m when Leeds were in deep trouble last season — came good, albeit at a level where a £30million forward should. Rodon turned in the best campaign of his career and Byram’s stints of service made him a savvy free transfer. Having allowed Gnonto back into the fold, Farke saw the 20-year-old’s mojo resurface at the end of January.

    There is no denying that when the dust settled at the end of last summer’s transfer window, Farke had one of the strongest squads in the Championship. There is no denying either that the pursuit of automatic promotion wobbled badly towards the end, scuppered horribly by a battering at Queens Park Rangers on April 26. Though Farke had a dig at VAR and refereeing decisions after the initial leg of their play-off against Norwich — “If we’d used VAR (in the Championship) we’d wouldn’t be in the play-offs” — it was equally true that Leeds blew repeated opportunities to finish first or second regardless.

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    Rutter has come good after struggling initially (Stephen Pond/Getty Images)
    Defensively, in regular league fixtures, Farke’s side deteriorated from the end of March onwards. Their finishing dropped off too. Individual form dipped as collective effectiveness sagged. Was it fatigue? Was it a loss of nerve? Was it end-zone fever? He was never able to say definitively. Even so, many of the numbers speak for themselves. Leeds won 27 of their 46 regular fixtures and accrued 90 points. They scored 81 goals and finished with a goal difference of plus 38. They came within two games of going unbeaten at Elland Road and their streak without a league defeat from the start of January ran for 96 days. In a typical season, it would have been automatic promotion form all ends up; title form on certain occasions, and his ability to regroup for United’s play-off semi-final against Norwich was a feather in his cap.

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    It is one of a number of reasons why sources close to the 49ers have indicated over the past few weeks that they were minded to stick with Farke however the season ended. He has three years left on his contract and Leeds’ owners believe the general picture of his performance is a positive one, regardless of Sunday’s defeat. They like his demeanour and temperament, and they appreciate the fact that he does not often talk himself into trouble with the media. They have already discussed plans for pre-season in Europe. Moreover, to this point they have heavily backed him, with recruitment and a squad Farke specifically asked for. And results as a whole were very strong.

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    Farke consoles Archie Gray after full-time at Wembley (Adam Davy/PA Images via Getty Images)
    Much as they would have gladly taken it, the 49ers did not demand that Farke find a way out of the Championship at the first attempt. It was simply accepted that if Leeds took more than one go at escaping the EFL, profitability and sustainability rules (PSR) would bite them harder. Sales of certain players will be necessary this summer, the only way of balancing United’s accounts within the limits of the EFL’s financial rules, and the next tranche of player investment will be aimed at promotion again. Summerville is among those expected to exit. The 49ers still expect to get the top-flight asset they wanted, albeit by way of an extended detour through a lower league.

    For Farke, defeat to Southampton today removes the freedom to step back and breathe. The past month was his lesson in the maddening tension and unpredictability of Leeds, a club who have now failed to win the play-offs in six attempts. “Sofa, cake and coffee” is Farke’s way of winding down but June is almost upon him, and there will not be much time for that.

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  2. SIDDAS

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    its going to be another season at Elland road with the doors opening and closing with players in and out. Cry,Willy will certainly leave. Rodon won't be bought and would he come back anyway. Archie Gray will be probably be the carrot for our financial madness. Ampadu will have suiters from the lower reaches of the prem. Mes will prob want out in which some fans won't be fussed about. it's going to be a long Summer. Will Farke stay? it really depends on what he has to work with. we basically have all the names on paper at the moment and might aswell throw them all in the air in who stays or goes. One thing I do know though is next season will be a lot tougher because we will have championship players only.
     
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  3. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo is Shit

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    Championship looks an easier league next season though (at least on paper).

    Burnley losing Kompany too.
     
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    Think yesterday demonstrated to me, what we’ve missed for much of the run-in. Nouse. We needed more experience. I do think the occasion was too much for a few of our players. We lost the midfield battle, and couldn’t penetrate their defensive setup. For all the Bamford haters, out there, Piroe is no replacement (though most realise that). We looked lost out there, going forward, but in fairness he didn’t have a lot to work with. Too laboured, too slow.

    Hope we do an “Archie” and blood Joseph next season. A year leading the line in the championship might be the making of him.

    Not worried about the loss of Rodon, I just don’t rate him for the next level up, he’s a liability bringing the ball out of defence at this level.

    We’ll miss Summerville, though he might find next season a bit of a struggle, as everyone knows his strengths and weaknesses.

    Don’t feel too downhearted, as I expected Saints would win. In truth, we need to man up next year. Could be another thrill a minute.
     
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    NostradEmus Firpo is Shit

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    Bamford is not the answer up front.
     
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    Wasn’t saying he was, Emu. Though I believe we would have created more had he been playing yesterday. I’d like Joseph to be given a real opportunity next season.
     
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    NostradEmus Firpo is Shit

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    Sorry if it appeared I was calling you out. Wasn't intended. I agree with alot of your post. :emoticon-0148-yes:

    Joseph should be given the 9 jersey next season supported by Piroe and probably a target man from the bench. We just need to commit to Joseph. Piroe, for his faults, is probably our most natural finisher which could help from the bench. A target man gives us something different from the bench too.

    If Bamford remains here then the temptation to rely on his experience might prove too strong and he will only let us down again. He was ruled out through injury yesterday and its all too familiar. Time to let him go.
     
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    Apart from the fact he can’t kick with either foot or head the ball Bamford is missing injured 75% of games for last three seasons maybe more. Why in gods name would anyone want to keep him. He’ll still be with us for next season though for one reason only, nobody else would be arsed
     
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    Our midfield creates nothing as the pair just recyle and try to defend. Gnonto and rutter were hopeless and i would not miss either of them. The owners need to be ruthless and ditch the dross like bamford gelhardt etc. Maybe Cresswell will do a job next season. Other teams are reportedly interested in cresswell so leeds need to give him a go.
     
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    I agree on giving Cresswell a run as well. I’d like to see him paired with Struijk in pre season and see how they go. Thought Struijk was playing really well when he got injured. They may not prove good enough, but hopefully they could form a decent partnership in the Championship. We need an experienced CB whatever happens, coupled with a left footed LB.
     
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    some people may think its not important but how bad have we been at set pieces this season? especially corners for and against to me its a massive asset in a season because a team get so many. is it because we just hopeless? is it because we got no height or players that can head a ball? whatever it is it deffo needs working on. I know the season is over now and people probably think I'm throwing me toys out the pram but we do have a team of weaklings none of our front line have anything to them Cry,Willy,James,Georgi,Bamford. Piroe has but looks weak as pizz in the air and is basically a static player. our Centre halfs don't score on corners we have no players with any brute force or Muscle to make a opening for themselves aerially hence in plenty of games we have been bullied all over the pitch. sounds stupid but do we need some players that are proper men?
    As on Bamford for me he has to go he's become Mr Brittle and you can't carry players in the championship there's to many games.
    Piroe aswell sorry but I just don't rate him. he's very flat and not very mobile wins nowt in the air seemed a passenger this season and as i said in a earlier post what position does he play and if we don't play it why keep him.
     
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    Cresswell and Struijk pairing sends shivers down my spine to be honest. Both of them are really slow.

    We play high up, possession based football. We are vulnerable to the counter attack. We need someone with a yard of pace. Neither of those possess it. Ampadu and Rodon are both fairly quick.

    You can play Cresswell and you can play Struijk but I don't think it works together.
     
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    Yes and ampadu to improve the midfield would work
     
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    I understand your point about lack of pace, which is why was suggesting they try it out. I like the idea of them both, because certainly Cresswell enjoys a physical battle and Struijk seemed to man up more, before his injury. I still firmly believe we need an experienced CB. Whoever then comes out first choice, good on em.

    Also agree with Siddas, think we’re shocking with free kicks and corners. Delivery has been especially poor, but no one really offers themselves when attacking and we just don’t appear to put bodies on the line defensively.
     
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    I know my response doesn't entirely relate to your comment, but on the aspect of our defenders throwing themselves in front of the ball to block a shot at goal, we were the second best in the league, with our defenders blocking over 33% of shots at our goal. Only Plymouth did better, with number of shots blocked at 33.47%.

    I appreciate that this doesn't cover putting your head where it hurts to clear a cross etc, but as I was in the middle of compiling some defensive stats, I thought I would just mention this one given it had been brought up in conversation, albeit this only refers to a portion of what I understand you to mean :)
     
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    Normally on a Sunday, we go to my dad's for dinner, but said I would come today, due to the game yesterday.

    Driving there around 5:15 pm, listening to talk sport, they said the lines are open to discuss scum winning F A cup and future of the manager.

    Let's just say the 3 calls summed up what it is to be a scum supporter.

    First call I didn't really listen to, so I can't be to harsh

    Second call whoever was presenting with Jason Cundy asked if the caller was at Wembley for the game.

    His response I'm a great man u supporter, but I watched the cricket instead

    Third caller asked the same question, his response no I wasn't there, I only attend Champion League games.

    Wtf are you doing ringing up a radio show to talk about the cup final and the future of your manager, when you come out with those 2 answers to a simple question.

    The 3rd guy could have just said he watched it on TV, rather than confirm he's just a fairweather supporter
     
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