New Head Coach

Very true mate but shouldn't have to ...

... sadly the internet puts you in the presence of the deranged, sad and bitter.

Even here you get posters, obviously fake, but they fool people for a while, start rumours and sit alone, giggling

 

I quite often see their stuff and it amazes me.

If they're trying to rip the piss, surely its got to be cutting but it never is.

I mean, how is pretending that Will Still is pleased to be coming to Sunderland funny?

That's like me saying "Eddie Howe really wants to sign a new contract at Newcastle. Ha ha ha."

 

Wow, I didn't realise it was so bad, surely this must be someone confined or housebound.

Taking the piss is fine if you get to see the 'victim', in a pub, at a match or whatever ...

... this is just inane and you have to feel a bit sorry for them.

 

Even if they walked up and said it to your face, you wouldn't be offended. It's just drivel.

That's just not me looking at it from a Sunderland perspective. It's objectively not funny on any level. Apart from perhaps how much it misses the mark.

Edit: there's one post about sisters which is mildly amusing, so I'll give them that one.

 

You're right, it's pretty tame and predictable.

I remember when 606Mags used to post on here, it was the same tired old clichés trotted out that would usually end up with the 'two bald men fighting over a comb' comment. I used to retaliate by going over there, post politely and without old insults or bad language. I'd regularly hit a nerve and retreat leaving them to rage about me for weeks.

During the build up to a derby I hadn't posted for ages but poor sad Albert banned me ...

... 'in case I posted something that would upset people'

 

But that is funny

 

I just think the world of football is changing mate. Whether for the better or worse, time will tell. Seems to me everyone wants a heaf coach that is young and 'on the way up'. At least those clubs trying to be on the way up. Top end clubs can appoint proven. Those at the lower end can appoint so called middle of the road journeymen.

Clubs like ours could attract proven coaches I am sure, and I suspect do, but modern day owners see the world differently. Once you are beyond 45 you are seen as merry go round coaches I think. Season just gone was my last as a coach in any sort of serious environment. All youngsters really now, and maybe that is ok. Somewhere though the older fellas with decades of experience should be relied upon.

 

The experience of Mowbray was part of the reason he fit so well with us in 22/23. Our young players needed the 'been there, done that' assuredness he brought. Maybe that's not so crucial for us now that players like Hume, Neil, etc have a good number of games under their belt.

I think one of the reasons Mowbray ended up falling down was the language barrier with some players. It's a UK wide, culture thing that the up and coming British coaches will probably fall down with as well - at least with our policy / style of bringing in young talent from the continent.

 

I think there’s a bit of experience and wisdom (Bruce is an example of where one isn’t always the other) missing in our set up, not sure it has to be the head coach but some of the decisions last year make me think it’s missing. My way would be in recruitment, the eye test saying ‘not ready yet’ or ‘not strong enough for this league’ from those who’ve played or managed in it.

 

I don't know the ages of the three promoted managers but they're not carrying a lot of baggage.

I seem to recall Farke upsetting quite a few players along the way, didn't he sack off Russell Martin at Norwich.

The trouble with the likes of Mowbray is that they've kissed too many badges, carry too many grudges and pledged their loyalty to a dozen clubs ...

... eventually they end up trotting out the same rhetoric, *just insert appropriate club name*.

 

What are you on about?????

 

Serious question...Do you recall why Sunderland supporters have a loathing of Coventry City and Jimmy Hill?

 

The mags, Khasoggi

 

just a thought maybe norwich has used stills name to get the man they want,

 

Or Still used Norwich to get what he wants here…

 

Aye. Football fans are extremely myopic and presume that whatever is happening is definitely to their detriment.

 

So if Still is done and his first day is June 1st. Surely we see something soon

 

Our days are filled with hope marra.

 

I agree about the young players thing and Mowbray, not so much the language thing.

Generally I think English or Spanish are the predominant languages in football. A high percentage of young players learn English, certainly on the continent. They usually have more than enough to understand. I think Rusyn was highlighted and became a bit of a stick to beat Mowbray with. Mowbray is an excellent training ground coach who communicates really effectively and I am sure he was mindful of the foreign lads when communicating. In addition a lot of clubs now partner with educational organisations via their academy setups. This includes English language courses. Players who need it can get short booster courses in English. It is a bit like overseas students coming to the UK, they can access English language courses if they need it to build the everyday languagd skills and boost their confidence.

 

Just guessing at your age mate but I know of plenty of managers/coaches who are older than I assume you to be. It's maybe not the level you want to be working at but I wouldn't be writing yourself off for that kind of thing.

As far as Still goes, he is very young to be a head coach. I think it is probably makes sense with our young owner and youngish board. You could argue that an older head would keep them in check but I think it might work due to them (presumably) having a similar view of the world.