Off Topic The Politics Thread

Fair enough.

 

Yes, Labour appears to be funding their many expensive projects by a non-dom tax and putting VAT on private school fees. Which is nonsense, of course, so rising taxes are inevitable under Labour. The wealthy are pretty well soaked already, so it will be the middle classes that bear the brunt.

 

Traditionally under a Labour government the old favourite tax & spend will be their mantra I can't see that changing under Keir Starmer

 

I’m quite fond of tax and spend when the alternative is tax and not spend.

 

It was a weak punch and he won't be challenging for any titles anytime soon, apart from maybe 'Prime Minister'

 

As much as I like Frank Bruno I wouldn’t want him running the country.

 

Traditionally under a Tory govt, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer by whatever means possible.

 

I wonder what he’s like with bacon sandwiches.

 

A serious question, Bob: is that actually true?

 

He'd need help lifting one

 

They could try cut tax & spend wisely

 

It's certainly happened over the last fourteen years.

 

Legal immigration has always been a positive thing for the UK
How many illegals would you allow in

 

Please provide facts. It just seems to me one of those things one trots out as fact when it’s really just perception. Who, for instance, is included in “the rich” and “the poor”. What is “rich”, what is “poor” and against what metrics? Is this metric itself changing every year? I can’t be bothered to do the research, but don’t wholly believe the conventional wisdom.

 

Starter
The most commonly used definition of poverty in the UK is a relative measure: poverty is defined as having a household income (adjusted for family size) which is less than 60% of median income. This is one of the agreed international measures used throughout the European Union.

https://ifs.org.uk/articles/income-and-wealth-inequality-explained-5-charts
Inequality seemed to grow most under Thatcher

Other stuff. Top 10% doing ok!
https://equalitytrust.org.uk/how-has-inequality-changed

 

On that basis, those suffering poverty in Monaco, are multi-millionaires, as opposed to multi,multi millionaires and billionaires. Let's have a whip-round for them

 

You’re the expert in moral relativity, fill your boots. If your definition of an equal society is the top10% having 35% of the wealth while the bottom 50% have 20%, fine. I’m just doing some research for Uber. Xx

 

Not criticising you, don't be sensitive! It's just a crazy way to calculate poverty. No matter how wealthy a nation, there are always the same number of people in "poverty"

 

Gove the latest Tory to announce that he won't be standing for re-election. Seems all the rats are leaving, which is a shame because there could have been a lot of 'Portillo moments' which will now be denied to us.

 

They haven’t got a candidate to stand against Corbyn (IND) yet.