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Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by Bodinki, May 21, 2024.

  1. Bodinki

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    Yeah I am hearing the same thing.
    Thing is, I dont even particularly like Poch and its not that he himself is going that has pissed me off, its that a) It sets us back somewhat and b) There is no big ready named replacement.
    Now if you were to tell me that Klopp, Ancelotti or Simeone or someone of that ilk had agreed to manage Chelsea and they got rid of Poch to bring in someone big to replace him, I could live with that.
    But to get rid of Poch just as his team has started to gel, and then to replace him with McKenna or Da Zerbi?! What kind of bullshit is that?
     
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  2. Bristol Blue

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    Simeone would be a good bet. I was starting to like Pochettino - I never thought I’d write that this time last year. Unless the football brain half wits of the Yankee nation sign a top European manager, I just wish they’d pack up and leave and give the club back to it’s rightful legal owner - Roman Abramovich.
     
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  3. Chelsea Pensioner

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    I think many of us feel the same way, but Clearlake don't want a Manager who can Manage, we're going to get a Coach. Out goes any suggestion Clearlake are in it to get Chelsea back among the top Teams, it's simply about making the most money buying kids and selling them for profit as soon as they show promise.
    Unless I'm really wrong, in a short time no decent players will want to be at Chelsea or come to Chelsea.They could go to Saudi for even more easy money if they are that way inclined. And in an even shorter time, the supposed favourites for the job need to decide whether they want to be Football Managers, or employees of a Capital Investment Company. They will never be both at Chelsea.
     
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    Not sure i agree with this.

    If they wanted to make money they wouldn't spunk money up the wall on record transfers for young players or bought chelsea for billions.

    They are just clueless
     
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  5. Bodinki

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    Yeah have to agree with Bobby, they spent 4 billion to buy the club and another billion on transfers in the first 18 months.
    If you are looking to invest 5 billion for a big return, then football isnt the way to go.
    It will take them 20 years to recoup their investment back, maybe longer
     
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  6. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Show me another Capital Group from anywhere on earth who does anything for any reason except for Money !!
    5 Billion is peanuts to these guys,They have assets of 75Billion and own 90 Companies, one of which is Chelsea. Their "Project" was all about manipulating the system with long term contracts, buying exclusively young players then selling them on if they show real talent. It never was about making CFC tops again, just an opportunity to buy a commodity with a good "customer" base and maximise profits. The Club can always be sold, any losses written off against Tax in the US. There's a reason so many Clubs are owned by Billionaires, who didn't become rich because they made bad investments. Getting CFC back into top 4 was underestimated by the Clowns, who then got rid of the only person who might achieve it, because he wouldn't toe the Corporate line, instead attempting to improve the Team logically. Not good enough for them, so no more Managers ,just line- toeing Coaches.
    The people wrecking the football side of things are Winstanley and Stewart, in who the owners have
    " Complete Confidence".
    That's my take on things though I do accept the Behbali and Feliciano do have some liking for football, so maybe it's just a big game for them?? Boehly looks like he's had enough, now it's being claimed he's selling his stake in Chelsea.
     
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  7. Bodinki

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    5 Billion is peanuts, and yet to earn that in football, as a club, would take a gazillion years.
    You realise Chelsea operates at a loss?
    Caicedo, Enzo etc are NEVER going to be worth more than what we paid for them.
    Even if we kept them for 3 years and sold them on, no one is paying Chelsea more than £105m for Caicedo.
    They arent going to make any profit on these players they are signing. Only Academy graduates.
    I am sure they will find ways to bleed money from the club, but if you have 5 billion quid and your intent is to make money from it, you would earn more by leaving it to rot in a high interest savings account and skimming off the interest than you would by investing it in a football club.
    Its more about increasing their portfolio and maybe using the club to write off other costs. I am no financial mogul but if I had 5 billion quid the last thing I would do is buy a football club.
     
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  8. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Me too, if I had 5 billion I'd be watching my football underneath a palm tree somewhere warm. So why do Billionaires buy football Clubs ?? Is it just ego and a plaything, or love of the game ?? With our owners I have to believe there's some financial gain in their plans because there's sure no sense in what they do.
    Anyway, here we go again, another season, another "Coach", same old problems. And bloody Utd just put us down a Division in Europe.
     
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  9. Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys

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    The good news is that Kompany is no longer int he mix as he’s been made the manager of Bayern!
     
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    Agreed ! Now, can i ask the same question i've asked on this thread already and got no answer. How do you get to be manager of one of the top 5 clubs in the world when you have just presided over the relegation of a club who won 5 of the 38 games they played this season ? Yeah, the simple answer is, there is no answer to that question. To me this is one of the craziest things i've ever come across in football and i've come across a lot of crazy **** in my time ! He was one hell of a player and i suppose you could argue he would have picked up a lot of info from playing under Pep, but feck me ! Anyway this time next year he will probably be in possession of the Bundesliga and Champions League and i will have to eat humble pie !!!
     
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    The Manager merry go round is always a complete mystery. Utd talking to Frank, and Pochettino as well, and Frank also in the frame for Chelsea. That's before Lampard to Burnley talk, McKenna to every club in the PL, not forgetting Big Sam, the Wally with the Brolly, Rooney and so it goes on. Obviously winning things or losing makes little difference, the merry go round keeps going round.
    Latest seems to be the dynamic duo Stewart and Winstanley favour Maresca, but Eggbali is "drawn to De Zebris' personality ". Oh really?? Maybe he should look at his record too ?? Teams have sussed his tactics and he's only winning 1 game in 3. Sounds "perfect for "The Project" to me.
     
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  12. Bodinki

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    Maresca is gonna be appointed.
     
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    I think every team is trying to find the next best thing and taking punts on young unproven managers hoping they turn out to be the right fit.
     
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    Signed on a 5 year deal. Wowzers! You certainly go balls deep.
     
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    The madness continues. The odds for season 25/26 Manager, sorry, Coach, will open soon as Maresca is official.
    Maresca will be forced to retire with a dodgy neck from having to nod "Yes" too often.
     
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    We only gave Ten Hag a 3 yr contract which tbf at this moment makes giving him the extra year less of a risk.

    Why the fck would you give him 5 years and pay the compo involved. More money than sense imo. We had this with that dickhead Woodward.
     
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    All money no sense !! It has been reported there are some kind of "break" clauses in the Contract, assume that's so they can fire Maresco and get yet another "Coach" in, while spreading the finances over a longer period.
    Whatever, they should have fired Winstanley and Stewart who spent all their money, and kept Pochettino who managed to sort out the shambles W & S created, and eventually get a decent team on the pitch. Instead W & S recommended Maresco !!!!!! When it all goes pear shaped again it will be Maresco who's on the street. Clowns, Circus, madness.
     
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    We've finally exhausted and burnt through all the big name managers in world football, so the latest fad seems to be picking up inexperienced chaff from the lower leagues and hoping they strike gold.
    Even if it works out, its still a stupid risk.
    The manager, sorry coach, role is the one area where you dont want inexperience!

    Apparently Clearlake were impressed with Maresca's moronic dream signings and is happy for them to sell Gallagher, Maatsen and Broja. Though indications are that Chalobah may be staying.

    Maresca wants Stefan Ortega in goal to replace Petrovic, then wants to sign Antonee Robinson at left back to replace Cucurella and Chilwell, and then Osimhen up front.

    So we will look like this:

    ----------------------Ortega----------------------

    James--Badiashile--Chalobah--Robinson

    ----Fernandez------Palmer-----Caicedo----

    -----Madueke-----Osimhen-----Nkunku----

    That back line looks suss as **** to me, James is a sicknote, Badiashile is very inconsistent and Robinson is an unknown entity to me, didnt watch Fulham much last season, anyone know if he is good or not?

    Then there is Fernandez, who is out and out the worst player in our squad, yet is our record signing, square pegs, round holes, anyone?

    If James stops getting injured and we got a decent, experienced CB in, then I would be okay with that.
    Fernandez though.......:headbang::headbang:
    WTF cant we keep Gallagher, why sell a great academy player to shoehorn ****tard Fernandez into this team......ffs
    You know Osimhen is gonna cost an arm and a leg aswell.
    I'd rather keep Gallagher in midfield and stick with Jackson upfront.
    Jackson has a years experience in the PL now, and if Nkunku and Madueke find form, Jackson should be able to grab the goals
     
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    I was listening to Simon Jordan saying the other day that CFC owners were right to sack Poch and bring in Maresca bcos they have a clear plan of how they want Chelsea to play and they are right to hire and fire managers to achieve that. He cited finishing 6th and almost winning the Carabao cup as proof that their strategy is working.

    Of course that was all bcos of them and nothing to do with Poch who by his logic weren't playing the football the CFC owners want <doh>
     
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    Simon Jordan is a ****ing helmet, hence why he has gone from owning a football club, to talking ****e on some second rate radio show.
    As I have said many times, I have no love for Poch whatsoever, he is a Tottenham man, but he had players like Enzo forced on him and had to work with a bunch of kids, many of whom had never played in the premier league, and he was finally starting to get a tune out of them, though it took nearly two thirds of a season. We only lost one of our last 15 games. (albeit that was a 5-0 slapping by Arsenal).

    Yes they own the club so they are within their right to employ or sack any manager they want.
    But the crux of the matter is, we are in the state we are in, and poised to sell some great academy players who were essential to last season, purely because, in the last 18 months, Clearlake have overspent on completely mediocre or unnecessary players, cheifly Caicedo, Enzo and Mudryk, who cost £300m between them and of those, only Caicedo has shown glimpses (only glimpses, mind) of the kind of player he can be.
    Mudryk and Enzo have been total ****e. Mudryk put in maybe 2-3 decent performances and Enzo, well, our improvement of form came when he was forced out of the squad through injury.

    Now Clearlake have to sell players like Gallagher and Maatsen, and maybe, but hopefully not, Chalobah, to make amends for their financial mismanagement.
     
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