Mainly symbolic. He's unlikely to ever stand trial (and it's not like Israel cares too heavily about what the international community think. They've broken more UN resolutions than anyone else, including North Korea). Still right thing to do to put him on the list. (And the Hamas guys too who also got rightfully added)
Yeh I feel the same. What happens if Hamas leaders or Netanyahu leave the country? Are the likes of Qatar or the U.S. obligated to hand them over? Tbh the more important thing is what position this now puts the likes of US, UK and Germany in terms of arms sales.
Whatever happens, Netanyahu will always be looking over his shoulder, someone will try and get to him eventually, you don't piss off that amount of the worlds population not to be held to retaliation at some point in the future.
It all counts, even if it's complicit in killing one innocent life. It's also a matter of principle in not supporting murdering ****s. Germany's excuse is, we "mainly" supply submarines.
Can't see it, not the ones in Qatar anyway, yeah you might get the foot soldiers, not sure the ones right at the top who milk off the donations.
I know but we won't be sending any tiny amounts to Russia or Iran. We can choose not to when we want - we shouldn't be selling arms to Israel or Saudi either, both scummy ****s.
Israel is a difficult call. Its a shame we can't put a kill switch on what we sell them... So when they're being aggressive ****s we can turn their weapons off... But when they're behaving themselves, they have their weapons turned on so they can act as a deterrent against invasion from all the countries around them that want them wiped off the map.
Name me a country around them that is realistically going to invade them and wipe them out. It's all bollox, they have nukes ffs The only reason Israel needs arms is to shoot kids in the West Bank
It's not just nukes. They have a powerful army and are backed by US and much of Europe. It would be foolish to directly attack Israel and most countries know that which is why they wage proxy wars. Egypt almost took out Israel in the 70's despite the risk of nuclear attack. Other hotheads in the region might consider it too if Israel were weak and could be blitzkrieged. Realistically though. No one is going to directly invade Israel. There are nukes. They are heavily armed and they have powerful allies.
Egypt and most of the countries around Israel have trade deals and made pacts with them. No one's remotely interested in invading them or wiping them out. This is just the usual propaganda. And proxy wars don't mean you want to invade and wipe out a country either. We're fighting one in Ukraine, do we want to wipe out Russia? It's incredible the leap ppl make, or the narrative they get fooled into believing. Same ****s that told you that the last front against communism taking over Asia was North Vietnam. Same ****s that told you Saddam and his WMDs would wipe out Cyprus in 15 mins. Same ****s now telling you Russia is going to invade the UK lol. Every fcking time stoopid ppl buy this bollox even when the previous times it's been proven to be bollox. Let's be clear here, the only people that face an existential threat in the middle-east are the Palestinians. They're the ones living under illegal occupation, they're the ones being killed daily, they're the ones having their homes demolished, and their land seized, and 100's of thousands of Israeli settlements being built on that land. And all of that was happening BEFORE 7th Oct and will do so after this war is over. THAT is existential. The rest is just #projectfear to keep the dumb masses on side.
Every war is different and every ruler is different. Iran's motivations for proxy war with Israel is different to our motivations for proxy war with Russia. As for how motivated Israels neighbours are to wiping them out... Probably a lot less.motivated than they were 30 or 40 years ago. Most rulers of those nations probably would have no intention of wiping out Israel as there is little gain, but more than a few power holders would like to see Israel destroyed if they could. I agree Palestine is more likely to be wiped out than Israel but it's not either/or. And it's a lot more complicated than one side good and one side bad or there wouldn't be so much argument about it everywhere. Israel certainly has legitimacy about worries about it's security... But it's also true they are aggressive regional bullies.
Iran's motivation for its proxy war is no different to our proxy war with Russia. It's ALWAYS all about geopolitical power. I don't give a **** about Iran, but there's no doubt they feel threatened by the Arab nations around them and the fact they're allied to the U.S. Motivation is simple, every opposing nation feels threatened and wants control of a region. That was the same in Vietnam when the U.S. initially was running a proxy war through the South, it was the same when the U.S. invaded Iraq, it's the same with Russia, it's the same same same! As for your last point, it's not complicated at all. That's just more propoganda "ooohhhh it's so complicated". Israel is in violation of 60+ U.N. resolutions when it comes to withdrawing from the illegal occupation of Palestinian land. They should fck off out and let the Palestinians have their independence and their own nation. Simple, see. It's made to look complicated because we're backing the ****bag.
