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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Shandy_top_89

    Shandy_top_89 Well-Known Member

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    I'd go the other way, do away with the monitor and let the VAR official overrule the referee at will without dragging him to the monitor. It would save a monumental amount of time and faff.

    Offside to ultimately be automated.

    Refs pride be damned.
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Just bin the whole thing. Any minor benefits just isn't worth the negatives it brings.

    Obviously they won't but they really should. Yeah it's been implemented terribly and improvements could be made but it'll still be awful and has irreversibly killed the game.
     
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  3. SaintinNZ

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    If it was my choice I’d go for scrap it completely but if it stays and it will, I reckon having the on field ref take a second look at things is better than a committee of remote refs and then the on field ref taking 5 mins over a 30s decision.
     
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  4. letissier86

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    What's the % likelihood that it will disappear in the next few years?
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    No idea, but I think most fans would scrap it today if they had the power to do so.
     
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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Which for me is the point.
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Would be fascinating to see the results if clubs polled their STH's.

    No chance that happens though.
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Because they know everyone would say scrap it. And somehow, somewhere, they're invested into this idea. It annoys me, because sport is competition, yes, but it's funded because it's entertainment. And it's funded from club level through to Sky by the input of fans. It's pretty disgusting that the consumer doesn't get any say at all.
     
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  9. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    There’s a paradox in the whole issue of VAR. It was introduced for the best possible motive, which was to make the game fairer, to make referees’ decisions more objective and auditable. But not only has it completely failed to to that, it has achieved something no one wanted, which is to make the game less entertaining.

    I remember a favourite photo in a soccer annual from my childhood, which was of Denis Law immediately after scoring a goal, one arm raised, looking skyward with an ecstatic shout captured in the image. The photo was captioned “the supreme moment”, which sums up that feeling we all have as players or fans when our team scores.

    VAR has robbed us of those moments, and the game is far the worse for it. I just hope that the entertainment media will somehow get the message that one of the main reasons people pay to watch football has been ruined.
     
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  10. Saints_Alive

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    Couldn't agree more with this and if it is scrapped then I hope that the incessant vilifying of referees by pundits on MOTD and the like that brought about VAR in the first place stops.
     
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  11. StJabbo1

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    Some hope of that. Decisions will be dissected, opinions given and the red top rag's back pages will stoke the rage of fans feeling hard done by. W.T.B.I.T.B?
     
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  12. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    I wonder if having the ref miked up, as they are in televised rugby matches, would help TV fans see the game through the ref’s eyes?
     
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  13. StJabbo1

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    There'd be a lot of bleeped out footballers rhetoric.
     
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  14. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    There was the same fear in rugby, but the players soon adapted to the new situation. It might also help footballers move closer to the respect which rugby players have for the ref. Having the 10 yard rule in football would also help!
     
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    I read a comment, this morning, that Wolves have called for the vote to end VAR, not because they expect it to be voted through, but because it gives them the opportunity to say that they consider it’s use to be biased in favour of certain clubs.
    By saying what they think in the environment of a Premier League club meeting, they are, apparently, removing the fear of being sanctioned/penalised, which is what would happen if they strenuously condemned the system in a pre/post match interview.
     
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  16. ChilcoSaint

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    Just to reiterate my point about the need for the standard of refereeing to improve, tonight’s joke of an official Tim Robinson has been a Premier League ref since 2019.
     
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  17. Saints_Alive

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    Should've stuck to cricket...
     
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  18. Schad

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    Do you Think He Should Leave?
     
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  19. RedandWhiteManofKent

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    I am fed up with hearing the top pl clubs crying and whinging about how many games they have to play blah blah blah, get rid of fa Cup replays blah blah blah, players don't get enough rest time blah blah blah.

    And then at the end of the season, next Wednesday, spurs and Newcastle are flying to Australia to take part in a friendly.

    Greedy bastards
     
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