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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Ajbtiger, May 9, 2024.

  1. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    If that's your best I have no response that would possibly satisfy you.

    So why just bask in the imaginary self validation you've desperately created for yourself and go to bed eh?
     
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  2. Newland Tiger

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    Anyway , what did he actually say about a new manager ?
     
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    Maybe you know what the **** you are on about. Nobody else does. Thought you were off to bed ages ago?
     
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  4. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Walter. 95% complete but no final agreement yet. Hopes to complete mid next week because that's the deadline they set. Will have final say on incomings, loan recalls and outgoings.

    Excited by his goals for record, and point record at HSV. Stated he will take not getting promoted if he sees positive, front foot football.
     
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  5. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    No, just advised you to call it a day before we declare you a protected subgroup of your very own.

    If you can't see the humour then I suppose you're just supporting that case.

    It's got fxck all to do with football, or hull city, and 95% of this membership is here for that.

    Not your subjective social insecurities.

    Yet you consistently push that narrative.

    Sorry to bear bad news. But it's boring.
     
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  6. North Bar Tiger

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    I like Acun. I get that some people think it’s unprofessional to say what he said, but it’s how he feels. I also liked Rosenior as a player and I think he has the makings of a good manager. However I was equally frustrated by the things that Acun has pointed out tonight. Personally I love having a custodian of our Club that wears his heart on his sleeve. He might not get it right every time but he has passion and I believe has the heart of our club in the right place.
     
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  7. SydneyTiger14

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    Acun's point about Ohio was dumb when after getting up to fitness and fitting in with our style of play he DID play and scored vital goals. It's not as if he didn't play all season.
     
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  8. AcunsBurnerAccount™

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    Here we go
     
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  9. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    His point for me was that Ohio scored at Rotherham. Then we didn't see him even in the squad for 6 weeks under the guise of not being fit. But Connolly wasn't dropped for the same reason. Went on internationals and did well, came back here and was productive in his gametime.

    I think his point was why Sharp and Connolly with were less physically fit with Noah in the stand when unlike the others when he played he contributed.

    He did support Liam on the Sharp signing though, which in context just heaped the implied criticism on Connolly, whether intended or not.

    It's just a classic example of a normally assured communicator goes off script.

    It's Acus Delia moment. Hopefully he will continue to be revered despite it.
     
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  10. SydneyTiger14

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    Ohio didn't score at Huddersfield. He started that game and was taken off at HT because he was unfit.
     
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  11. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I meant Rotherham. Either are a synonym for **** towns in West Yorkshire

    Sorry, you were quick to respond. I've edited the O/P since you replied.
     
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  12. SydneyTiger14

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    It entirely changes the point though, as he wasn't dropped after scoring against Rotherham, he was instead handed a start. Which revealed his lack of fitness and issues with his adaptation to our game style. He was taken out of the line up for a handful of games while he got up to fitness and then he came back in an improved capacity and scored impressive goals. Why he was named at all is utterly bizarre and no amount of hand waving from you will justify it.
     
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  13. PLT

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    Incredible number of posts on this thread tonight, way too many to catch up on, so maybe this has all been said.

    I wasn't there tonight so only going off the bits I've read online:

    Clearly, Acun has been very open here. In some ways that's a good thing - it's certainly enlightening - in other ways it's probably ill-advised.

    Personally I have more of an issue with the content of it. I know lots on here had the same concerns, but the owner shouldn't be arguing with the manager over football decisions. He's basically just a fan like us when it comes to these matters. His opinion on Pandur and others is irrelevant, and it's really alarming that he's fallen out with and ultimately sacked a manager over that. It also seems to suggest, as Baz said last week, that Pandur was bought by Acun/Tan against LR's wishes, which is a recipe for disaster.

    My other concern is, it increasingly seems like with these football matters that Acun is involving himself in, he's just taking a populist stance. All this Allsop, Pandur, Ohio, Sinik stuff; it sounds like he's reading this board and adopting the loudest complaints as his own position. Acun isn't a football expert and neither are us on here, but Liam Rosenior is. Acun should be listening to his manager on football matters and so should we.

    There is no manager he could possibly appoint who won't get some complaints on here for something his team does. Whether it's 'no plan B', 'too slow', or maybe something new, there are always going to be complaints. What then? Is he going to complain to Walter about that, not listen to the explanation he gets and then later sack him?

    Acun has been brilliant for us, but ultimately he needs to chill out on this and leave the football matters to football people, or it can only ever end badly.
     
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  14. SydneyTiger14

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    It's what I've been saying from the start. Hire a Director of Football who knows what they're doing, and task them with running the club in the capacity Acun is now. If Acun gets displeased with the Director of Football, hire and fire that person, but Acun shouldn't be directly picking players to sign, firing the manager for boring him, etc. That should be entrusted to the Director of Football. It gives one layer of separation to allow for emotion to be stripped out of decisions. Acun can still give the DoF a brief though, which means he still has an impact and say on the direction of the team.
     
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  15. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    I'm not handwaving, I'm trying to get my head around what was actually said as opposed to initial reactions.

    Sharp was specifically stated that Acun and Liam were on the same page. Was a dressing room signing like huddlestone for McCann and hudds and macca for manu.

    Come on at home when on top and maybe make a difference but Acun didn't criticise sharp as a 30 min player.

    Just that Ohio was bombed out when he wasn't fit enough to start but was probably a better option off the bench.

    But again, he's selecting specific scenarios as opposed to others because of his perception of risk.

    He didn't mention once for example the issues with a delegation of players going to tan.

    I suspect he used Connolly and Allsop because they're on their way out.
     
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  16. SydneyTiger14

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    From some of his comments he's absolutely reading Twitter, potentially even reading here, which is a massive concern if he's letting that influence his decision making.
     
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  17. SydneyTiger14

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    Interesting..
     
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  18. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Tan is the DOF.

    And if you think boards interfering with selections, asking why their money isn't out on the pitch is a new thing, then you clearly don't remember our own Don Robinson, Deadly Doug Ellis etc.

    It's just a classic example of what's gone on for decades.
     
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  19. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, agree with that.

    The loudest voice on social media isn't the majority view.
     
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  20. SydneyTiger14

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    Kesler is the Vice Chairman.

    Of course not, I wasn't born yet.

    It's also an entirely different era of professional so utterly pointless comparison.
     
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