You said: "Becasue you just say all we did was pass it between jones and greaves" when I asked for examples you gave something TOTALLY different
Its the same thing They are our centre backs Okay you didnt literally name them But theres no one else playing
No, please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let's not bicker and argue about who passed to who.
Hardly - we played well at home against Towels, Cardiff, Rotherham, QPR, MIddlesbrough (should have won), WBA and Watford (should have at least got a draw out of that) as well as the 2 games you mention above.
I think some of those are debatable in my opinion. Even taking that at face value, that's 9 home games where we've played well, 3 of which were against firm relegation candidates. I think there's a bit of a paradigm at play in a lot of cases. Throughout the season I've seen a lot of people talk about 'dominance', because we've had so much of the ball in so many games, but too frequently this dominance hasn't actually been dominance, it's largely just been possession. I've no problem with us keeping the ball, as it helps prevent us conceding, but in games which you could argue were there for the taking, we've just not stepped up and created the chances to take them overall. The problem we've had all season is being too ready to hit the reset button and starting again instead of picking out a runner. I get the impression we've thought the results would come if we stick to the plan, but without forcing the issue and being more adventurous we too frequently dropped points.
I'm just watching the Hamburg v Schalke game and it's pretty interesting. Much like the Bundesliga it's so open, it's significantly more open than English football, and it doesn't take much to open Schalke up. The press from both sides is poor and easy to beat and it's technically a decent step down from the Championship. Glatzel who didn't do much at Cardiff looks a real threat and very lively. The use of the keeper is interesting but it suits Allsop perfectly, and I think he'll look really good in that role (with his feet). If the keeper isn't very good with his feet, you're going to concede a lot of goals. It depends how he adapts to the Championship, he'll have to be more pragmatic but in all honesty it's nothing more than a very high-risk punt. The quality of player you need to make it successful is higher than LR's style.
I think we have some of the players already. They line up in a 4-3-3. I think Ömür and Tufan could definitely do the number 8 positions either side of a number 6. They also tend to go 4-4-2 out of possession so the left centre-mid (Bénes) plays as a false 9 next to Glatzel. Tufan can and has done that. Under Rosenior, our 4-2-3-1 shape pretty much becomes 4-4-2 when pressing anyway. Whilst the left centre-mid is more an advanced playmaker, the right centre-mid is more box-to-box with lots of energy. Slater or Ömür could do that role comfortably since they both work very hard off the ball. Dompé in the Hamburg v Schalke game reminded me of Philogene a bit.
But championship teams off the ball are a much much higher level than that Ive said before 2nd bundesliga is great to watch as a fan Entertaining Cheap Great atmosphere But their teams wouldnt even come close to finishing in the championship playoff Its such a lower level
we are talking about a manager not the players managers have made the step up before and can do aagain
I've just done the same and thought they were quite impressive tbh. They played some lovely stuff at times and created loads of chances. Also deadly on transition committing lots of players forward. I'm still not convinced it will work in the English game and I'd prefer either Rohl or Cooper by some margin, but if it does happen, at least it will be exciting. Based on what I've just watched we need an athletic CDM as they're often isolated and an aggressive CB who's also comfortable on the ball (Greaves would be perfect)
And im saying he will need to be far more pragmatic to be succesful here Playing that sucide football in the championship will be a disaster You cant play like that in this league You will get torn apart That schalke level is pathetically poor Great for a fan like i said Cheap football Great atmosphere
We've definitely got some players it would work for but it's the defensive side that bothers me. I don't think Alfie can play this style and the same with Lewie and it would expose Seri's lack of legs even more. You'd need 2 CBs of Greaves' quality, and an absolute machine in defensive midfield. It's the definition of kamikaze football and it'll suit Acun perfectly. He's not the type of gaffer I'd hire in a million years if I was bank rolling to club to 8 figures a year mind.
He’ll sack the manager if he doesn’t make the play-offs. You can quote me on that this time next year
Not to mention Not a single team in the championship is as poor off the ball as that schalke team Theyd finish below rotherham
I agree. This style of football requires two centre-backs who are as comfortable as Greaves on the ball. Not just passing but confident to drop the shoulder when being pressed and carry the ball forward into space. Coyle would also struggle massively I think.
I'm not sure playing the suicide football we played was very good although we did cut down on the risks later playing the ball to a guy just outside the penalty area who was tightly marked was risky there's nothing wrong with creating space obviously if you cant create space you dont do it I think players CAN create space if they are good enough
