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Match Day Thread Liverpool v Palace

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by saintanton, Apr 11, 2024.

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Another crucial title race game. Will we...

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  2. fall behind...

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  3. or stall?

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  4. We'll ****ing smash'em

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    err yeah. they've literally just blown it.

    it's in city's hands.

    there's literally nothing arsenal can do from.jere but wait for city to not lose and we've been there several.times and k ow the outcome.

    that's blowing it for me. we all know you must stay ahead of city in the run in..give them the slimmest lead and they win
     
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  2. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    I don't often agree with you on football but yeah we have ****ing blown it. Disgraceful performance and all the "we'll keep going" **** is just as bad, hang your ****ing heads and realise that you ****ing bottled it at a time where you should have been nothing but professional and seen out a routine home game at Palace to a routine 3 points. The very lowest point of Klopp' reign.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    there's two things.

    First they have put everything in and have blown up. the midfield is shattered.

    second the defending out of some players is lax as **** and honestly they don't look as determined as they were. I honestly don't know why konate was here he was and vvd just didn't bother get over to the an before he had a tap in.
     
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  4. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Been this all season. Dunno why we persist on 4-3-3 with these players either.
     
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  5. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Screenshot_2024-04-15-08-23-03-59_680d03679600f7af0b4c700c6b270fe7.jpg

    Seems some of you have already defaulted back to doubters since Klopp's leaving announcement
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    send this to the players not us.
     
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  7. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    We've had an incredible season. Everyone here would have snapped your hand off at the start of the season for a top 4 finish and a cup.

    As things have gone along, our expectations have changed as the rag tag teams we've had to put out have over achieved. Our fans are known for being entitled and my goodness there's plenty of that on display in here. Don't let disappointment warp reality or make you bitter. If you're not enjoying the run-in, stop watching.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It's like as if some folk only hear half whats said.

    I've said about 20 times the players are tired and have given everything.

    If you want to make that into "entitled" work away
     
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  9. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I've said loads of times over the years, not just this season, that as a fanbase we come off as being entitled because from my observations, it's true. It's one of the drawbacks, if you can call it that, of supporting a successful team. In our case, a very successful team. We expect success. There's nothing wrong with that btw. It's better than having no ambition or accepting mediocrity. There's a difference though between expecting the best, which is where I'm at, and losing your head when everything doesn't go your way.

    I'm guilty of looking to the next round of a competition before the current one is won when facing 'weaker' sides but I'm not writing a season off before it's mathematically possible to turn it around. It's the giving up before it's over where the entitlement creeps in.
     
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  10. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Absolutely. This is not the 2020 team. It's not even the 2022 team. You can get carried away being top of the league at Easter with 9 games (over a quarter) of the season to go, especially when we're not just vying with Arsenal for the title - hard enough - but with City, a seasoned beast, as well. I always thought the title was probably too much too soon. But the Europa? We'll regret that one. And getting knocked out of the FA Cup by a so-so United as well, albeit peppered with several world-class players.

    But while the new manager will have a solid foundation to build on, I think we need to move away from our focus on a front three in a 4-3-3 being the blueprint of going forward; we're not going to replace Salah-Mane-Bobby in a hundred years. We should build the team around Macca, and go after a goalscorer or two.
     
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  11. saintanton

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    I'm not sure I'd use the word "entitled", tbh. It suggest that you feel you ought to be handed success by dint of who you are rather than what you do. It certainly plays into the hands of other fans who accuse us of it and I don't really agree.
    I think there are expectations of a team that has shown itself to have a lot of strength and potential over the last few years and so there's disappointment when we don't succeed. It's more an emotional response to the moment than an innate belief in superiority.
     
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  12. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    I think Liverpool Football Club should be competing for the league title every season, even with the financially doped behemoth that is City being around. it's ironic when Man U fans come on here and call us 'entitled' for thinking like that though. :emoticon-0143-smirk
     
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    I don't think that's why we get labelled as 'entitled'. It's when fans list ten fixtures and truly expect 30 easy points, or when fans over look the upcoming "easy" fixture to focus on the next "tough" match. Or throw a paddy when things don't go our way, blaming our players and not giving credit to the opposition.

    #onegameatatime
    #creditwherecreditisdue
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    given up?

    what are you on about.
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    An emotional response to a moment is one thing and we all have those. When it's the go-to for nearly every occasion, it becomes something else. I don't think our entire fanbase comes across as entitled, just a small section. As with most things, one small section or even a few individuals acting in a certain way seems to give critics, in this case, rival fans, a reason to label the whole.

    I think as well as its dictionary definition which is more or less what you said, it can be expanded to cover attitudes and that's more what I'm alluding to. When you have fans saying things like " We're Liverpool, why are we buying (eg Endo) who nobody's heard of " . It shows entitlement.

    I'm regarding it in the same way that certain sections of society display entitlement - 'respect my pronouns .... my religion .... my sexuality ....' Why, just because.
     
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  17. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Are you not seeing the 'that's it, season over ' comments? Did you not see them last season? ... 'We can kiss goodbye to European football altogether'.
     
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  18. Zanjinho

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    See them? He's been posting them, and that was before we played Palace <laugh>
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    its now a crime to say the players have given their all?

    to say there's too many that are half fit and not in form?
     
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  20. johnsonsbaby

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    Interesting that you picked the bits of your argument that nobody has a problem with. :bandit:

    Mate, people can say what they like. We come on here to share opinions. We rarely all agree or have a consensus and that's the beauty of discussion. We all watch the same games and come to different conclusions. We can't even agree when we've all just seen the same thing, such as whether a penalty was in fact a penalty so it's unlikely that we'll agree with each other's opinions and/or outlook.
     
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